One thing that doesn't change in the Cellar no matter its make-up, we will find something to argue about.

Fag?

No, but he is exploring his softer side.

Nope. I wondered if I was alone in seeing this board as inhererntly American in character, because when I posted that it was disagreed with. I can't be arsed to go back and count how many times I stated that it wasn't a problem, it wasn't a complaint, I didn't have an issue with it, I really like this board, I enjoy the different perspective I get here. Quite apart from the fact that anyone who reads my posts should know this anyway - I revel in the differences because of what they teach me.
There's no second complaint as there is no first complaint. But questioning someone else's opinion isn't a complaint anyway. I don't think I'm clever for having a different opinion to some people on this board, no. And there are Americans on here who have seen what I am trying to say.

I am one of the Americans who has seen what you are trying to say. There is no difference in opinion, because the original observation isn't debatable--it can demonstrated by raw data, i.e. a greater number of American posters.

Now, putting that first-level, blatantly obvious aspect of the conversation to the side, there is the matter of what does this actually mean, in real-life terms?

You suggest that a person's nationality/geographical location should cause them to feel a distinct separateness, of all places on an INTERNET site (which has no geographical constraints)! This makes smoke come out of my ears. You're focused on the OLD model of human interaction. That isn't how things are done anymore.

If you feel out of place, on the internet, because of where you are physically at, then all I can say is "You're doing it wrong."

You get so pissy when you're losing. :lol2:

I think we're having two different conversations.

So this was about word usage? Now THAT I can agree with but that's not what they are conversing about.

I thought we already were.

This is why you can love/hate flint. That's so smart to be almost poetic.

I am still waiting for someone to tell Flint to chill though. My fair meter is blinking. He is way more to the point and the quick than I was.
That means he's blighter too.


ah never mind. It's payday hey! :)

No.
I'm really not saying that. I think you are taking what I have said and taking the next step - it's honestly not one I am taking, or am interested in taking.

This was my original post:
I've even kept in the typo.

In this case Coberst was specifically criticising Americans, and I was actually trying to make the point (obviously very poorly) that in fact he was making points about the whole of the Western world, but giving American specific reasons for his conclusions. Which made no sense when his criticisms could be applied to any number of countries who do not have a common history with the US. I felt he was addressing the board as if it was composed solely of Americans, and that's certainly not true.

However, this lead to me explaining that if you post on a board where general terms like the Government, the military, the schools, the sports industry, tv channels, advertising etc etc ALL mean The American Government, the American military etc and not the ones you (I) am familiar with and know how they work, then you do adjust your mindset slightly. It is barely noticeable after a while, but sometimes a thread will surprise you (football being an obvious example).

I don't want to feel different, to feel apart. I react to the people here - not their nationality. But if you took all the locations away then I would still be making the same adjustments. It's not a bad thing. I don't mind. I'm not complaining. I think I'm done.

I've tried to put my point logically. I've kept coming back because I felt I was being identified as something I'm not and my views were being twisted. But we won't agree, so really I'll just let my posts show that I'm not small minded or trying to pull anything apart. If they don't then that's my bad and I'll live with it.

That's what Sundae was talking about... the Cellar has a American flavor because of the preponderance of American posters, that shows in the daily banter. How many "International" boards go on and on about Philly cheesesteaks?

Flint's railing against everyone that doesn't buy into his brave new world, because he wants people to forget he's from Texas.

THEY aren't having the same conversation.

That's exactly what I'm doing, because that's what I do. I'm sorry if I dragged you along the tangent I couldn't resist following.

It is interesting to see your original post:
I don't categorize, in my mind, "foreign" posters into a "contingent." That's exactly the opposite of what I think the internet is for.

But to show you that I understand your point, let me propose this analogy: Being a non-American on a predominantly American disscussion forum might feel something like being a non-Christian in America. And God knows I've done my fair share of beating that subject to death.

Thank you.
And btw I feel the same (albeit to a to a lesser degree, despite having a state religion) in the UK.
:grouphug:

Okay, huggy-thing, now jeez let's move on...

What? No! The whole point of fighting is the make-up sex, and you want to just rush through that part? That's just freaking... un-American.

Don't bring Jesus into it now!