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Radar 11-26-2007 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble (Post 410238)
I'm sorry, I rolled my mouse over your post again and again, but I just can't find the link to your citations on this subject.

http://www.fuckinggoogleit.com

Feel free to search for "writers"+"$200,000". The number is obtained by averaging the amount earned by the highest and lowest paid writers who are actually working and does not include those who are not working like those who mention 65k/year.

Undertoad 11-26-2007 02:27 PM

Sixth item when googling "writers"+"$200,000":

"The $200,000 average is a misleading indicator of most writers. There are 12,000 Writers Guild members (and I'm not one of them), The MEAN income of a guild member is $4,000 a year. Yes, that means there is a very large distribution. There are the A-list writers who make a lot of money, there are writers making the minimum, and there are writers who aren't getting paid at all because they sold nothing in that calendar year."

Cicero 11-26-2007 02:31 PM

If somone could update me on that Daily Show video that was posted by Happy Monkey? Who's the special guest? I'm not supposed to stream at work...heavy fines...

Radar 11-26-2007 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 410313)
Sixth item when googling "writers"+"$200,000":

"The $200,000 average is a misleading indicator of most writers. There are 12,000 Writers Guild members (and I'm not one of them), The MEAN income of a guild member is $4,000 a year. Yes, that means there is a very large distribution. There are the A-list writers who make a lot of money, there are writers making the minimum, and there are writers who aren't getting paid at all because they sold nothing in that calendar year."

I don't find that misleading at all. Of all the writers who actually have jobs, the average among them is 200k per year. Some make a million, and some make 4k. They are paid what they are worth. The average between them is 200k. The guy who makes 4k per year probably worked less than a week in a year.

Mentioning how many writers guild members are in the union is irrelevant. Most of them don't actually work. It's the same in SAG or AFTRA. Something like 3%-5% of the members of that union are actually working actors. It's stupid to factor in those who aren't working. To figure out how much union writers are being paid, you only include those who are actually working.

Working writers guild members earned $264 million which equates to the average working writer making $205,000 in 2006.

Radar 11-26-2007 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Cicero (Post 410315)
If somone could update me on that Daily Show video that was posted by Happy Monkey? Who's the special guest? I'm not supposed to stream at work...heavy fines...

It was a daily show writer doing a "non daily show daily show" where he points out the hypocrisy of Viacomm suing youtube because it says internet distribution is worth a billion dollars a year, and then telling the writers it's worthless.

Happy Monkey 11-26-2007 04:16 PM

And the special guest was John Oliver.

Drax 11-27-2007 02:13 PM

The strike might be over soon. Click here.

classicman 11-27-2007 02:19 PM

Are you all really missing your tv shows that much? Honestly, I haven't noticed much of a change - guess you can tell I don't watch 'em too much.

Drax 11-27-2007 02:26 PM

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Happy Monkey 11-27-2007 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by classicman (Post 410853)
Are you all really missing your tv shows that much? Honestly, I haven't noticed much of a change - guess you can tell I don't watch 'em too much.

Most of the change hasn't happened yet, to be noticed. The late-night shows are in reruns, because they need daily writing. The Office hit reruns in the last two weeks, because of the crossover in their writing/acting/producing staff. Most shows have more lead time than this, and haven't gone into reruns yet. The big changes haven't hapened yet. When the rest of the shows run out of already-written episodes, there will be an extended lack of scripted television, even if the strike ends soon.

Cicero 11-27-2007 03:52 PM

I miss my shows, and a couple of friends are missing out on jobs. There...I said it. I want my Colbert back.

classicman 11-28-2007 03:37 PM

Drax - Who singled YOU out? Guilty conscience much?
Fuck you very much too by the way

Drax 11-28-2007 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by classicman (Post 411378)
Drax - Who singled YOU out? Guilty conscience much?

How do you expect me to respond? Your post was right after mine.

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Originally Posted by classicman (Post 411378)
Fuck you very much too by the way

Don't take it personal like. Hazing the n00bs is S.O.P. around here. Hey, Jim did it to me...relentlessly.

classicman 11-28-2007 04:47 PM

Read my post - I said ="are you ALL...
plural

Sundae 11-28-2007 04:50 PM

Actually we only haze annoying noobs...


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