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Unlike the World Cup, in the Premier League they sometimes actually shoot and score.

The standard of football at club level (in the top leagues) is better than at international level, mainly because the players get to play and train together much more at their club, and the manager gets much more time to work with his players. This is why international teams often look like they've never played together before. (England at the moment).:mad:

I was really impressed by the grace of play in that game. Reminded me of what I'd always liked about soccer. I miss the NASL. :( Somewhere in a bag o' buttons I have a pin for the Philadelphia Fury.

11 days. 11 days from being in the running for all the cups, to complete and total disappointment. oh well, there is always next year.

Yes, the future looks bright for Arsenal, it's just a shame about the present for you. The other three Premiership clubs in the Champions League have got through to the last eight of the Champions League though. With the best team from Spain, Italy and France all going out, England is the most likely destination for the trophy. It's still a strong draw though:

AC Milan vs. Bayern Munich
PSV Eindhoven vs. Liverpool
Roma vs. Manchester United
Chelsea vs. Valencia

your boys certainly have the talent to take their tie. liverpool should as well. i'll just pray for chelsea's demise.

I agree that we have the talent; on paper I think we're the better side, and if we played the way we do in the Premiership I wouldn't be worried, but our outlook in Europe is all wrong. Ever since we last reached the semi-finals against Leverkusen in 2002, we've just been far too cautious in Europe, and it hasn't worked; we've never looked like a threat. We struggled past Lille in the previous round, and we've already lost to Celtic and Copenhagen away from home this season. If we don't up it a gear in Europe, there is no way we'll win the Champions' League this season.
Liverpool should get through. Chelsea have a difficult draw, but I just have a feeling that they might win it this year; the Champions League is the big one for them, it's the reason that all the money was spent in the first place.

I can't believe it a football thread.. My team won a cup on sunday first time they've won anything in 16 years..

That guy getting hugged on the right looks like Steve Carrell!

Yes be-bop, a football thread. I'm glad you've found it; most of the time it's just me keeping this alive. Well done to Hibs by the way.

cheers to your side. i think you appreciate the cups more when it has been a long time since the last one. i hear Arsenal fans bitching about the problems with the team because it has been *gasp* 2 YEARS without a cup!

A lot is expected of the big teams though isn't it? Too much, I guess.

i don't know. my perspective may just be a little different. i prefer to win the awards but as long as we are playing attractive, entertaining football i'm content. i've tried and tried, but i just can't stand watching chelsea play. they may be winners, but they are boring. if i just want to watch rough and tumble clinical football i'd prefer watching the lower table sides who are still more club than business oriented. but that is just me.