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xoxoxoBruce 12-01-2018 11:29 PM

I've seen pictures of women who were labeled as Cam Girls, and vaguely aware of what the do, but not having visited their sites didn't know how the operated. Actually I didn't know it is a profession, with some were making a good living doing it. :smack:

So I saw this article linked from a site that wouldn't send me to click bait, and found it to be a real interesting read about starting in the business. Not just the hardware and contacts but the psychology of making it successful.

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My credentials: I was a camgirl for five years. My highest earning month was $50,000, and my highest rank (on MFC) was #7, meaning I earned the 7th most money that month. I was, at one point, one of the most (if not the most) widely known working camgirls thanks to some viral content. My average income per hour was $200. Getting there was not easy and took a ton of mistakes and work, so I hope this helps you.
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I don’t think women easily empathize with the life of unattractive men.
Women get constant messages that you are beautiful and you are desirable – they get social support and easily accessible casual sex, if they ever wanted it.

Men do not live in a world where people are supporting them even when nobody seems to want them. Men are lonelier and have fewer options of healing that loneliness. They also have a greater (initiatory!) sex drive, and are stuck with the social burden of being the one who has to act and pursue, because if they don’t, they will be alone forever.

And so for you to smile at them, laugh at their jokes, be warmly interested in what they have to say, to be willing to bare your body for them and feel pleasure with them – this is something that they crave.

Obviously money is involved. Obviously you wouldn’t do this without money and you shouldn’t feel obligated to do anything. It isn’t your responsibility to heal other people’s loneliness. But keep in mind that this is a fundamental yearning of the people you’re dealing with – they want you to approve of them, to deem them worthy of affection.
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To maximize money, you should give out approval proportionally to the amount they tip you. You don’t have to maximize money in this regard, though, if you don’t want to. I paid more attention to higher tippers in general, but I also paid more attention to people I genuinely liked. Camming would have been unbearable for me otherwise.

Gravdigr 12-02-2018 04:08 AM

When I trimmed trees, my fee for working in the rain?

$200/hour. That's what I'd bill out.

I coulda been a cam girl and stayed dry.:/

xoxoxoBruce 12-11-2018 12:16 PM

9% Kentucky's eligible age voters are disenfranchised, 26% 0f blacks.

Flint 12-11-2018 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 1020676)

Do you think anything will come of all this media attention to voter disenfranchisement, voter role purges, gerrymandering, and rigged elections in general? It's a hot topic at the moment, which is good, but maybe when the stock market crashes or something, we'll move on to other things?

Gravdigr 12-11-2018 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 1020676)

The "solution" is to not commit felonies if you want to continue to vote. Simple as that. But, no, people like the author of that piece feel the need to be hate mongers. To stir shit when there is no shit to stir. Don't make a damn what color you are, you do a felony, you don't vote. Simple as that.

Flint 12-11-2018 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Gravdigr (Post 1020691)
Don't make a damn what color you are, you do a felony, you don't vote. Simple as that.

In 3/50ths of the States. So it's not as simple as that, it's as simple as what zip code you were born in. Without making a value judgement, you can observe that, at least, its a random variable.

Gravdigr 12-11-2018 03:02 PM

What? There's nothing random about it. Felony. No vote. How is that random?

You do realize I, and Bruce, and the piece he posted, the one I quoted, are talking about Kentucky, and not some random fucking zip code?

How is it random?

Flint 12-11-2018 03:03 PM

Most states don't do it.

Gravdigr 12-11-2018 03:20 PM

But we are talking about one that does.

I'm still lost on 'random'.

Flint 12-11-2018 03:24 PM

Babies don't decide what state they are born in.

Clodfobble 12-11-2018 03:38 PM

To be fair, babies don't commit felonies, either. Adult ex-felons could choose to move to a different state.

Perhaps I should clarify that I'm in favor of people who completed their sentences being allowed to vote again. I just think we should encourage people to leave Florida by whatever means possible.

Happy Monkey 12-11-2018 03:44 PM

Florida's changing that rule (unless they find a way to override/water down the referendum, which they will try).

It also was a prime example of why "Don't make a damn what color you are, you do a felony, you don't vote. Simple as that." wasn't true. Whether a felon got their rights back was completely up to the whim of the governor.

Additionally, which crimes are felonies, whether people are arrested, charged, charged to the maximum or minimum level, convicted, paroled, or pardoned are not color blind.

Gravdigr 12-11-2018 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Flint (Post 1020717)
Babies don't decide what state they are born in.

Waiting for random...

Third post with no explanation of what you mean by voting-rights-being-denied-due-to-felony-convictions being random.

Now you're bringing babies into it? What does a baby's lack of choice in birth location have to do with anything?

What does a baby have a choice in? Nothing whatsoever.

Just to remind you, because you seem to have lost track:

Felon voting rights, in KY. Not other states. Not babies. Not zip codes.

Happy Monkey 12-11-2018 03:49 PM

Flint - which three states are you talking about?

Gravdigr 12-11-2018 03:53 PM

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From HapMo's link:

Felony Disenfranchisement

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Flint 12-11-2018 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey (Post 1020724)

From the article,
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Kentucky and Iowa are the two states that disenfranchise people convicted of all felonies for life. (Virginia law provides for this as well, but recent governors have mostly gotten around it with executive orders.

Happy Monkey 12-11-2018 04:25 PM

I guess it's a bit more clear from the map than the wiki text; I assume it's Iowa, Kentucky, and Virginia; Florida's the same color but they're changing the law to "Circumstantial".

ETA: Yeah, my wiki-skimming skills weren't great.

Gravdigr 12-11-2018 04:41 PM

Waiting on random...

Four times.

Flint 12-11-2018 04:49 PM

There's not anything else to say, is there?

Gravdigr 12-11-2018 04:51 PM

Wai-ting[/PinkFloyd]

Gravdigr 12-11-2018 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Flint (Post 1020734)
There's not anything else to say, is there?

Not for anyone with no explanation for their own goddamn words, apparently.

Gravdigr 12-11-2018 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Gravdigr (Post 1020735)
Wai-ting[/PinkFloyd]


Gravdigr 12-11-2018 04:53 PM

We're up to 6, I believe...

Gravdigr 12-11-2018 04:54 PM

I double-dog dare ya to explain your 'random'.

Gravdigr 12-11-2018 04:55 PM

Gonna go ahead and say it's 7, now...:right:

Gravdigr 12-11-2018 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Gravdigr (Post 1020740)
I double-dog dare ya to explain your 'random'.

8

Flint 12-11-2018 05:25 PM

Then, explain this?
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Originally Posted by https://www.wkyt.com/content/news/Here-are-13-laws-which-will-go-into-effect-in-Kentucky-July-14-487495601.html


xoxoxoBruce 12-12-2018 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Gravdigr (Post 1020728)
Waiting on random...

Four times.

It's random because it's not punishment handed to most Americans for the same offence, just ones living in a couple of states.

Even in the state where getting busted for drugs worth over $500 is a felony, it becomes random in that there's no standard. A kilo of pot could be judged to be worth $400 and four joints worth $600, depending on who's calling the shots and who was busted. If you're white and daddy is a prosecuting attorney, there's a real good chance that pot won't be worth very much.

Gravdigr 12-12-2018 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 1020785)
It's random because it's not punishment handed to most Americans for the same offence, just ones living in a couple of states.

Even in the state where getting busted for drugs worth over $500 is a felony, it becomes random in that there's no standard. A kilo of pot could be judged to be worth $400 and four joints worth $600, depending on who's calling the shots and who was busted. If you're white and daddy is a prosecuting attorney, there's a real good chance that pot won't be worth very much.

You're mixing standards as you speak. Drug crimes are not judged on what someone says the drug is worth. They are judged by weight of the drug. See that way it ain't fucking random.

You posted a piece on KENTUCKY's felony disenfranchisement. That's what I was discussing. KENTUCKY's felony disenfranchisement. Not another fucking state, not a different subject.

I got busted with seven pounds of marijuana. Not $5,000 worth of marijuana. Not $10,000 worth, not $250 worth. Pounds. Not dollars. I've never read story where anyone was charged with a dollar amount's worth of dope. Never.

Obfuscate shit all you fucking want I'm done with this and both of you.

As for explaining anyfuckingthing to you, Flint, just choose a bunch of random words, you understand random, don't you? Oh, wait...Apparently you don't.

Gravdigr 12-20-2018 01:42 PM

2018's Notable Deaths

xoxoxoBruce 12-20-2018 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Gravdigr (Post 1020826)
You posted a piece on KENTUCKY's felony disenfranchisement. That's what I was discussing. KENTUCKY's felony disenfranchisement. Not another fucking state, not a different subject.

How the fuck can you evaluate Kentucky's policy without looking at how it compares to the rest of the country?

Gravdigr 12-23-2018 12:46 PM

Sure is rainy out.

Gravdigr 12-29-2018 10:16 AM

Artist Illustrates The Best News of 2018

xoxoxoBruce 12-29-2018 01:03 PM

Ha ha, the comments at the end of the good news are silly... :lol:

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Alice December 29, 2018
The UK has become the first country in the world to jail people for Facebook posts. Making it the #1 country in the fight against freedom of speech. Way to go!

Alice December 29, 2018
France 🇫🇷 has become the first country to knowingly destroy its self through mass immigration. The streets are filled with human waste and crimes like child rape are covered up. Kinda like the UK and other EU countries. Hurray for you guys!

Alice December 29, 2018
Berlin has become the first EU city to allow over 100 “Shariah Police” to patrol the city and enforce Shariah Law. Google it! Coming soon to a EU country near you. Any country that stays in the EU is finished. How can you not know that? The story of the frog in the pan of water…. hello…. idiots.
One pill makes you larger, and one pill makes you small
And the ones that mother gives you, don't do anything at all
Go ask Alice, when she's ten feet tall :haha:

Griff 12-30-2018 07:46 AM

According to my Dad's mailbox forced Islamic worship is coming to the Elementary school in__________! A town which lacks an Elementary School and as far as I know a single Muslim.

Undertoad 12-30-2018 08:06 AM

Was it from a Russian account?

Griff 01-01-2019 07:49 AM

American as apple pie comrade! as far as I know, next time I'll work the provenance issue.

xoxoxoBruce 01-09-2019 06:02 PM

Allen Dulles 73 rules of spycraft

12. Booze is naturally dangerous. So also is an undisciplined attraction for the other sex. The first loosens the tongue. The second does likewise. It also distorts vision and promotes indolence. They both provide grand weapons to an enemy.

13. It has been proved time and again, in particular, that sex and business do not mix.

James Bond got some 'spainin' to do.

Gravdigr 01-14-2019 08:26 AM

The 15 Darkest Secrets About Jessica Rabbit

I may have mentioned this in the past, Who Framed Roger Rabbit cost me ~$1300. I was driving a 73 Monte Carlo (Vette 350, double hump 375hp heads, Quad, a bit of a cam) at the time, and about 5 miles from the theater, which was 25 miles from home, the engine decided to seize tight as a drum. Either the oil pump died, or something prevented oil from getting to the engine, I never looked inside it. The car I bought to replace that one cost $1300, but, damn if I can remember which one it was.:neutral:

We walked to a convenience store (mile maybe), and after about 30 mins a guy I knew by name (he knew who I was, too), but had never spoken to, came in and we caught a ride back to town with him. I'd never spoken to the guy before, and I'm almost certain I haven't spoken to him since.

tw 01-14-2019 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Gravdigr (Post 1023122)
... the engine decided to seize tight as a drum. Either the oil pump died, or something prevented oil from getting to the engine, I never looked inside it.

All that blamed on Jessica Rabbit who was bad? She was only drawn that way.

Gravdigr 01-14-2019 10:55 AM

I don't blame JR, she's a fictional cartoon character, after all.

Robert Zemeckis, on the other hand, owes me a classic Monte Carlo.:eyebrow:

In white, w/black vinyl Landau roof, and Corvette Rallys.

Gravdigr 01-14-2019 10:56 AM

That was my 2nd Monte Carlo. The first was a maroon 74.

And I dated a girl who drove a 70. She let me drive.:)

lumberjim 01-14-2019 09:27 PM

Anyone see what I did with those inlay thingies?

fargon 01-15-2019 08:11 AM

Yeah we saw and it was wonderful.

Gravdigr 01-15-2019 12:47 PM

We saw the thing, with the face, and the scraping, and the stuff...:D

Clodfobble 01-15-2019 10:29 PM

I can never follow most of the woodworking/handyman threads, but once they finally start to look like something, I get impressed. That's a damn guitar, LJ!

I'll expect a YouTube performance with it when you're done, naturally.

xoxoxoBruce 01-25-2019 01:22 AM

An article about how scientists and psychologists have based most of knowledge of normal on a sliver of the world’s people. Certainly not representative of the variation of human customs and cultures.

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If a boy is to become a man among the Etoro people of New Guinea, he must ingest the semen of an elder member of the tribe, via ritualised fellatio. The same belief is held by the nearby Kaluli. But in their case, the ceremonies require the semen to be delivered via the initiate’s anus, not his mouth. The Etoro despise the Kaluli’s practice, finding it disgusting and unnatural.

If you were asked to sum up the nature of modern adolescence, the Kaluli and the Etoro would not be the first examples that spring to mind. But a few years ago, three researchers in Vancouver became convinced that much of what we think we know about humanity as a whole is in fact the result of studying a tribe that is just as divorced from the mainstream of human experience: the American undergraduate.

Gravdigr 01-25-2019 07:54 AM

How a Dirty Old Waffle Iron Became Nike's Holy Grail

Even if ya already know about it, it's a pretty interesting read.

Gravdigr 02-14-2019 03:32 PM

‘Jihad By Camera’: How U.S.-Trained Afghans Photographed the Soviet Invasion (32 Pics)

Flint 02-14-2019 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Gravdigr (Post 1024096)
How a Dirty Old Waffle Iron Became Nike's Holy Grail

Even if ya already know about it, it's a pretty interesting read.

I half-ass knew the story, but this article was SUPER interesting. I didn't know they sold Nikes out of the trunk of a car, but it made me think of Chuck Taylor, the guy who sold Converse All Stars out of the trunk of his car.

glatt 02-14-2019 08:02 PM



Very interesting flipping through those pictures

Gravdigr 02-15-2019 11:31 AM

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World Leaders' Valentine's Day Cards

Sample:

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BigV 02-15-2019 05:14 PM

Comments equally funny

Gravdigr 02-15-2019 07:20 PM

I didn't even read 'em that time. I usually do.

Gravdigr 02-26-2019 04:25 PM

I think I like David Thorne, and I bet Simon is a total douche.

Undertoad 02-26-2019 04:29 PM

I like David Thorne

you might remember "Missing Missy: A Shannon Production" :D

xoxoxoBruce 03-10-2019 04:03 AM

Good article from the N Y Times...

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What we need is not to disagree less, but to disagree better. And that starts when you turn away the rhetorical dope peddlers — the powerful people on your own side who are profiting from the culture of contempt. As satisfying as it can feel to hear that your foes are irredeemable, stupid and deviant, remember: When you find yourself hating something, someone is making money or winning elections or getting more famous and powerful. Unless a leader is actually teaching you something you didn’t know or expanding your worldview and moral outlook, you are being used.

Gravdigr 03-10-2019 10:15 AM

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When you find yourself hating something, someone is making money or winning elections or getting more famous and powerful. Unless a leader is actually teaching you something you didn’t know or expanding your worldview and moral outlook, you are being used.
Two completely bullshit statements.

sexobon 03-10-2019 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 1027904)
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What we need is not to disagree less, but to disagree better.

Of course, there's always room for improvement.

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 1027904)
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And that starts when you turn away the rhetorical dope peddlers — the powerful people on your own side who are profiting from the culture of contempt.

These people are hired to counter the rhetorical dope peddlers on the other side; because, the other side is not turning away from theirs. Unilaterally turning away from those on your side is how one loses parity (i.e. unilateral disarmament).

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 1027904)
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As satisfying as it can feel to hear that your foes are irredeemable, stupid and deviant, remember: When you find yourself hating something, someone is making money or winning elections or getting more famous and powerful.

So, if you hate Nazism, racism, and genocide, someone making money or winning elections or getting more famous and powerful representing your sentiments is a bad thing?

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 1027904)
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Unless a leader is actually teaching you something you didn’t know or expanding your worldview and moral outlook, ...

Hmmm, our leaders are elected to teach others something they didn't know or expanding their world view and moral outlook (e.g. life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness).

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 1027904)
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… you are being used.

That's what losers always say to winners...you're just a tool. I suppose it can be cathartic; but, it doesn't change anything.

All in all, the quoted excerpt from that article comes across as a bunch of smollett. YMMV.

Undertoad 03-10-2019 11:09 AM

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...author of the forthcoming book “Love Your Enemies: How Decent People Can Save America From the Culture of Contempt”
Well I'm on board

Love your enemies - the greatest and most radical advice ever offered to the human race


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