So much for Bin Laden's boasts the world would fall apart if he was killed.
Two suicide bombs in Pakistan. More Muslims dead, and of course it targeted people who had nothing to do with Bin Laden's death.

Like all terrorists, Al Queda are opportunistic cowards, and don't deserve the attention paid to them - they are a spent force that can only racket around in the desert in future.

That's a sure way to start a nukular war between India and Pakistan.


Not a bad idea.

:thumb:

This demonstrates that they cannot use any pre-planned attacks or pre-positioned supplies, because they have to assume that the American government now knows everything.

So they are taking the cheap shots. My guess, however, is that Disneyland California will be their next target.

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I mean their next American target. It is cheap, it is easy, and it appeals to their attention-whore mentality.

This morning, sports radio WIP am had a list of the titles of the porn found at Bin Laden's compound. I wish I could remember them all.

I slam, you slam, we all slam for islam
Deep Goat
cop a feel of jameel

I am thinking he is starring in porn in hell right now.

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...cTCi4V7Sk-taw6

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...Klgbv881I07dyQ

This is too funny.
Link

what part do you find funny? I read it... nothing there strikes me as funny.

I'm with V on this one. On the one hand I'm glad they found him and did what needed to be done.

But I also mourn the loss of another life and the wasted potential.

The irony of it all. I guess funny was a poor choice of words.

I'll admit it raised a wry smile from me. Got to admire the guy for doing that.

Same. I feel grim satisfaction.

Surrounded by hundreds of Virgin Sheep.

Pakistan arrests CIA's informants on bin Laden
 

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Interesting development. I think it makes the Pakistani Gov't look even more complicit.

Somebody knew. It sounds like there are quite a few factions within the Paki gov that has no idea what the other parts are doing. That is a bit unsettling given they are the only primarily Muslim nation with nukes.

That has been known about their Gov't for a long time. They are not monolithic.
Its more a melange' of beige yogurt.

While I'm sure the timing is a face-saving move, I'm not sure what else we could expect. If a CIA agent gave info to MI6 outside of the approved channels, they'd probably be off to jail ASAP, even though we are allies.

Complicit or embarrassed. They can't or won't get the job done, then America steps into their backyard and offs the guy on their own regard. Leaving the Pakis looking either weak and ineffective, or plain unwilling to fully confront the radical elements within their own borders. They sure as hell don't want to look like America's lackey, but at the same time it is just as bad to look as if America has to do their fighting for them. The government critics and opponents are having a field day with this I'm sure. It's lose-lose for Pakistan. If they would settle things with India in the east, quit screwing around over land disputes, then they could reallocate their resources to fighting this cancer that is rotting the country from the west. Its their own two-front "war". Save face and continue feuding with India, and not have the ability to fight off the radicals in the west, or swallow their pride with India and work to prevent the true threat to their national stability.

As so accurately noted, "They are not monolithic. Its more a melange' of beige yogurt."

And much to my surprise, their nuclear weapons number is hundreds. Pakistan has for a long time been the most dangerous nation to America. A friendly nation also full of friends of our enemies and with nuclear weapons. Even Afghanistan is regarded by many in Pakistan as an enemy. Therefore Pakistan needs to protect the Taliban (certain factions).

During the cold war, America provided the USSR with a fail-safe system similar to one we had. The USSR gladly accepted it and implemented it. Cooler heads existed on both side.

But Pakistan refuses to accept the same fail safe system provided without strings. It is this type thinking, repeated constantly, that makes Pakistan further dangerous.

One can criticize all they want. And that is useless. One must first acknowledge what does exist. Then deal with it. Apparently Hilary Clinton has been doing so with success. The recovery of our secret chopper is a perfect example especially when Pakistan is courting better relations with China.

Which part - It is so fragmented and disorganized. There is no central gov't as we in the western more civilized nations have.
We are dealing with a country that has the educational level of the 14th century, yet technology of the 21st. :neutral:

Good question. One part of Pakistan is openly proliferating nuclear weapon technology around the world. We had no idea until Kaddafi told us.

The bin Laden raid simply made it glaringly obvious to top leadership that their own subordinates even have other agendas. It made overt denials that much more difficult.

Sometimes I read where the raid resulted in better US / Pakistani relations. Other reporters report the opposite. Neither is wrong. Each is only reporting from their part of Pakistan. Who are Pakistan's friends and enemies? Well, the US military in Afghanistan would be completely cut off and destroyed without supply lines from Pakistan. But the Afghanistan nation is considered by so many Pakistanis as to be an enemy. The Taliban is Pakistan's ally. Some call the Taliban a creation of Pakistan. Which part of Pakistan created and supported the Taliban? That question has no answer.

We did not make things any better by running an 18 wheeler over the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. Unilaterally destroying it by providing nuclear material to India. Making nuclear dangers that much worse. Why should Pakistan trust us when we destroyed that treaty to further arm India?

Worse, we have no idea if we have won or are already defeated in Afghanistan. Pakistan is one factor that defines any victory or defeat.

What a mess.

Well stated. I agree that they really can't afford to completely isolate the radical elements, even though they pander and pose as if they are doing something of substance.

bump.

This is an interesting read from back in May. I never heard any of this.

Classic, check out the source... they also say Bin Laden was not shot :eek:

well can you prove it? :rolleyes:

Yeh, I know. Cant be worse than the Inquirer - lol.
I happened upon it looking for something else and thought I'd throw it out there for your perusal/discussion. Interesting theory.

:D

bin Laden was in that compound only long after all GITMO prisoners were in GITMO. How did they learn that bin Laden had moved into a house in Pakistan? Mental telepathy is the only possible explanation.

Why does a Muslin god give GITMO prisoners a power that we do not have? The article only proves that god is on their side.

:lol:

and what the heck is it with the tags on this thread?

I don't think you're taking this seriously.

Wait, they got Bin Laden? When did this happen? :eek:

lol
Cite. We'll need records of a those who are currently in GITMO, were in GITMO, any and all visitor logs.
Additionally we will need to see the records of any and all new secret detainees and visitors.
Also the lease bin Laden signed and/or papers as to the purchase of said compound,
whatever U-Haul/Ryder truck rental agreement.
Furthermore, all correspondence between bin Laden and his subordinates.
Lastly, we require a lock of bin Laden's hair.


Actually, I just want the lock of his hair. Thats gotta be worth something, DNA and all.

O.K, so the story on the street is that we got some info with some enhanced interrogation techniques that led to the capture of Bin Laden. This is being Heralded by the right wingers and supporters of torture as a success story. What I want to know is how much info has been given using torture techniques that is inaccurate and just plain wrong so that the torture would stop for the moment. I say they got lucky with this, and that if it were not for other collaborative and far more involved intel practices we would never have found the man. Even a broken clock is right twice a day. We just happened to be looking at the clock at the right time.

Thanks Joe. You would know far more than the rest of us.

Prisoners in GITMO telepathically transmitted that myth so that we would stop looking for bin Laden. Much easier to do when god is working for them. Unfortunately, you were not on their telepathic e-mail list.

Well somebody here could have courtesy copied me. Hmmph.

classicman appears to be well connected.

Finally, we agree on something.

I feel I should get something straight before we go on. My job has nothing to do with the events in Pakistan surrounding the death of Bin Laden. Anything I post on here is my opinion, nothing else. I just don't want to misrepresent myself, or by not saying anything at all let a misrepresentation take place.

Fair enough. Thanks for the clarification.

I appreciate your declaration, Joe.

Oy, tag-bandit, I'm watching you. :lol:

Still dead. Merry Christmas!

Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead!

That Hitler jerk hasn't moved in YEARS.

Let's shoot him again, just to make sure.

What do you do when you see Hitler stumbling around in your back yard?

Shoot him again.

That's called a penny arcade. And it's always rigged. No matter how many times you shoot him, he keeps popping up again.

I'd invite .. let me see ... Big Sarge over. :D

Still dead! Woo Hoo ...

SNL reports: Franco is too

I knew Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ was a friend of mine. And you, bin Laden, are no Jesus Christ. Don't even think of resurrecting yourself.

Ah, something from tw that isn't profoundly offensive! Keep up the good work.

still dead.

Thanks to President Obama.

Obama doesn't kill terrorists.
Guns kill terrorists.

Ha

Double tap, 9mmPB, no? USN guy on the trigger.

I saw a bumper sticker yesterday that said:

Navy Seals - 1
Osama - 0

And I thought, well no, really it ought to be Navy Seals - 1, Osama - 2,819. Okay, the Navy Seals can have credit for the several hundred other top Al Qaeda deaths, too... but that still leaves Osama ahead. Shitty bumper sticker.