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xoxoxoBruce 11-01-2015 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sexobon (Post 944116)
For those with formal leadership training, the terms are already defined and discussing it with those who don't know the jargon becomes a game in semantics.

It's always semantics, because that's the only way to discover exactly what the other guy means. If you don't explore that, you may agree with something and later find they actually meant something different than what you thought.

You can understand more quickly someone who's had the same formal leadership training, which is an advantage to the military to have everyone understanding quickly and correctly. However someone with different formal leadership training may not attach the same nuances, or indeed meaning as you, to the same terms.

sexobon 11-01-2015 09:24 PM

Well, we can make military service compulsory so everyone speaks governmentese; or, have hackers doing time develop jargon translation software instead of making license plates. :D

It really hasn't been semantics so much as the lack of a working knowledge of the fundamentals which don't change with venue.

Lamplighter 11-03-2015 08:42 PM

I just watched a video on TV that was posted on FB by Huffington Press.

It was of Chris Christie speaking for about 5 minutes to a small group of people,
about being "pro-life" for all of life, not just the 9 months of pregnancy.
I was very touched.

I hope someone will post that video here so others can see it too...

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xoxoxoBruce 11-03-2015 09:28 PM

Just remember you were touched by a politician. :haha:
And a politician on the campaign trail. Even if he truly believes it, what about the guy on the other end of the leash, the one with the keys to the war chest?
I may sound skeptical, I may even sound bitter, but that's only because I am.

xoxoxoBruce 11-04-2015 01:07 AM

Why am I skeptical, you ask? Yes you did. Well, you were going to.

1974, Dick Nixon at the Naval Academy...
Quote:

He declared that his policy of “détente precluded interference by the United States in the domestic affairs of other nations.” “We cannot gear our foreign policy to the transformation of other societies,” he said. “In the nuclear age, our first responsibility must be the prevention of a war that could destroy all societies.”
Nope, no transformation. Did you hear that Cambodia? :eyebrow:

Griff 11-04-2015 06:13 AM


Lamplighter 11-04-2015 11:00 AM

Thanks, Griff.
I didn't realize what I was saw was just a replay of a Christie stump speech.
I guess I should have known. :right:

In any case, his speech reflected my distaste of "pro-life" advocates
who seem concerned only about the 9-months of prior to birth,
and then afterwards ... not so much.

What I saw were two short videos, the first was almost a replica of this stump speech.
The second was a much more personal account of a friend of Christie
who became hooked on Rx pain pills after a jogging incident.

It was this segment that touched me, because Christie seemed to be genuinely promoting
lifelong "pro-life" support for treatment of mental mental illness, drug addiction, and rehabilitation, etc.

So I'll cynically add:

Maybe this theme will spread to others in the GOP :rolleyes:

Isn't it remarkable how so often politicians are strong political conservatives,
until something happens within their own circle of family or friends.
...and then they suddenly change their political position on that particular issue.

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Griff 11-06-2015 07:06 AM

Interesting that the moment we noticed Christie actually being reflective he gets demoted to the Lilliputian debate.

Lamplighter 11-18-2015 10:15 AM

Although Ben Carson says that 4 of the Founding Fathers of the US Constituion were physicans,
so he would appoint more physicians to the top levels of all government agencies.

And even tho he has not yet said he could see Russia from his front door,
there are disquieting rumblings among his campaign's foreign policy handlers...

Ben Carson Is Struggling to Grasp Foreign Policy, Advisers Say
NY Times - TRIP GABRIEL -NOV. 17, 2015
Quote:

Ben Carson’s remarks on foreign policy have repeatedly raised questions
about his grasp of the subject, but never more seriously than in the past week,
when he wrongly asserted that China had intervened militarily in Syria and then failed,
on national television, to name the countries he would call on to form a coalition to fight the Islamic State.
...
“Nobody has been able to sit down with him and have him get one iota of intelligent information about
the Middle East,” said Duane R. Clarridge, a top adviser to Mr. Carson on terrorism and national security.

He also said Mr. Carson needed weekly conference calls briefing him on foreign policy
so “we can make him smart.”


Griff 11-19-2015 06:47 AM

Hillary does Family Guy.

Lamplighter 11-19-2015 10:41 AM

:D :D :D

Lamplighter 11-20-2015 04:31 PM

Trump would 'certainly implement' national database for U.S. Muslims
CNN Jeremy Diamond, CNN - Nov 20. 2015
Quote:

Washington (CNN)Donald Trump on Thursday called for the creation
of a national database to register all Muslims living in the U.S. to protect the country against terrorism.
...
Ben Carson: 'We should have a database on everybody
CNN - Cassie Spodak and Jedd Rosche, CNN 11.20/2015
Quote:

"I think we should have a database on everyone who comes into this country,"
the retired neurosurgeon told reporters from the New Hampshire statehouse Friday,
adding later, "Hopefully, we already have a database on every citizen who is already here.
If not, we are doing a very poor job."
...
Yes, I know. I have cherry picked from these articles.

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sexobon 11-20-2015 05:33 PM

The obvious solution is to make sure all Muslims are firearms owners with concealed carry permits in case registration is a prelude to rounding them up and putting them into detention camps.

Nawwww, that could never happen in this country; or, could it?


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