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lumberjim 07-22-2010 11:22 AM

I will be honest with myself and others today
I will see things as they are
I will do the things that need to be done
I will act like the man I want to become




Cicero 07-22-2010 11:35 AM

This meditation is completely different when I try it-inpublic. ;)

bbro 07-22-2010 11:35 AM

Good Mantra

Gravdigr 07-22-2010 12:53 PM

ATTN LumberJim: Do something that makes you laugh.

Right now!

I dare ya.

:D

classicman 07-22-2010 12:56 PM

Very good Jim - I like that

Trilby 07-22-2010 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gravdigr (Post 671998)
ATTN LumberJim: Do something that makes you laugh.

Right now!

I dare ya.

:D

:) In AA that's known as rule #62:

Don't take yourself so seriously.

Pooka 07-22-2010 01:45 PM

That is awesome LJ!

Stormieweather 07-22-2010 02:35 PM

My biggest enemy in recovering from my addictions was my own brain. Oh I could argue my willpower into submission like none other! Such reasonable arguements too!

No one will know. (I will)
It's just this once. (It won't be)
It's not hurting anyone. (It's hurting ME)
I can't go without. (Yes I can)
I'll do better tomorrow. (Do better NOW)
I need this. (No, I don't)
It's just ___<Insert justification here>___ . (Shut up self, I am stronger than this desire)
Everybody does it. (Not me.)


It helps if you can identify your self-talk and overwrite them with talk designed to control the addiction.

classicman 07-22-2010 02:44 PM

That belongs in the Hall of fame Stormie!
Only thing I'd change is the last one
Quote:

Everybody does it. (No They don't)

Pooka 07-22-2010 04:23 PM

Oh that is Excellent Stormie!!!

That is pretty similar to what I do, but requires less introspection... which for me is actually better... I'm so very OCD.

I've gone through The Work of Byron Katie... if you aren't familiar she pretty much gives you the tools you need in her book titled Loving What Is. It changed my life.

LJ... I sincerely hope this proves an opportunity to create a deeper bond between you and Jinx. I wish you guys the best.

lumberjim 07-22-2010 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pooka (Post 672080)

LJ... I sincerely hope this proves an opportunity to create a deeper bond between you and Jinx. I wish you guys the best.

thanks, Pooka.

Today, my mind is thinking of how I neglected that bond. If I get another chance, you can bet your life I will not make the same mistake again. This has become a larger issue than the eating. The eating may be at the root of it, it may be a collateral result of something else. I don't really know. Standing outside of the circle gives you a much clearer perspective on things.

I AM a loving husband. I expressed my love constantly in words. I believed what I was saying too. I was telling myself that everything I was doing, I was doing to keep them all happy. But I was doing it the same way I was eating to be happy. Satisfying the momentary desires at the cost of the future. I feel love. I say I love. My actions, however, were not expressing love. I can see that very clearly now. In the end, it was hurtful, not loving. Ask me if i regret that.

I'm sorry to be maudlin, but I'm in a glass case of emotion here.

limey 07-22-2010 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lumberjim (Post 672100)
thanks, Pooka.

Today, my mind is thinking of how I neglected that bond. If I get another chance, you can bet your life I will not make the same mistake again. This has become a larger issue than the eating. The eating may be at the root of it, it may be a collateral result of something else. I don't really know. Standing outside of the circle gives you a much clearer perspective on things.

I AM a loving husband. I expressed my love constantly in words. I believed what I was saying too. I was telling myself that everything I was doing, I was doing to keep them all happy. But I was doing it the same way I was eating to be happy. Satisfying the momentary desires at the cost of the future. I feel love. I say I love. My actions, however, were not expressing love. I can see that very clearly now. In the end, it was hurtful, not loving. Ask me if i regret that.

I'm sorry to be maudlin, but I'm in a glass case of emotion here.

Oh, I do hope that you all get another chance.

xoxoxoBruce 07-22-2010 08:37 PM

Sometimes tough love is better, although it's, well, tougher.
When you're not wealthy, but do have a large cash flow, it's easy to put things off thinking it'll work out. The squeals of delight, and adoration, produced by providing the "extras", are very intoxicating.

squirell nutkin 07-22-2010 08:47 PM

LJ, The book Wolf mentioned, The Five Love Languages (or somethign like that) is another good book to add to your reading list, but the gist of it is:

Everyone expresses love and experiences feeling loved in different ways. He has a multiple choice quiz that asks Qs like: "Would you rather go on a long walk with your lover or have a long talk?" after answering the questions you determine if your "love language" is touch, communication, quality time, acts of service, and I forget the other.

For example, couples can have problems if one person's love language is "communication" and the other's is "acts of service."

Why does she feel I don't love her? I tell her so all the time. vs. He doesn't love me, he never fixes things or picks up things at the store when I ask him to. etc etc

It is a quick read and helps determine if you are speaking in a language the other person doesn't understand.

lookout123 07-23-2010 10:21 AM

I'll third that book.


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