Redux

You are not being singled out,not by me and most others.
This started out as a collective problem to solve. You are emotionally involved and it's hard to see it that way. Just look at this objectively and answer this question.

How can we participate in the politics thread?

Except for that one time you were given suggestions, oh, and the other time, and the one after that, too. Your posts would improve on their own if you actually chose to be a member of the community, because you would actually know the people you were talking to, and that whole "the internet turns everyone into assholes" thing wouldn't be a factor anymore.

This is a major part of your problem. Every post is full of this indignant "Tell me how" and "Give me one reason" and "Please explain to me how you" stuff. It's the way a teenager argues with an authority figure. If you have a point, make it. If you have evidence against the other person's point, show it. Anything that starts with "Please tell me how" is useless bickering.

And this is the other major part of your problem. Again, like a teenager, you keep falling back on this "he started it" concept, that you expect us to respond "fairly" to you and your adversaries, or you're going to throw more temper tantrums. No one gives a shit. It's been explained to you repeatedly that when you "respond in kind," you make yourself the asshole, end of story.

That is all I was asking...and evidently, many dont want to address it.

I have acknowledged being part of the problem.

I have said I will try to do better.

But unless, Merc makes the same commitment, IMO, nothing will change.

Its simple..avoid personal attacks and discourage responses like "failed" ...."bullshit"...."partisan shill" and I will do the same.

And for the record, I apologize for my personal attacks of Classic...they were inappropriate and it wont happen again.

.....and so the vicious cycle of blame and defensiveness continues...

I am sorry that you and Clod see it that way.

"shrug"...I honestly dont know what else to say.

YMMV. I'm going for intolerbly irritating. To me, the whole point is that many of us are sick and tired of this shit spilling out of the forums in which it originated -quoting people out of thread and out of forum is always pretty low, but to do it in a thread that's about most of us being sick of this shit is intolerably irritating.

I am sure he will. Thanks red

If so, all will be cool. :D

Thanks!

Actually my post was right after clods. It was blame singularly pointed at you.

As I said before it is not one persons problem.

I said I wasn't singling you out remember?

My apologies. :flower:

People, I just want to say, you know, can we all get along? Can we get along? Can we stop making it, making it horrible for the older people and the kids?...It’s just not right. It’s not right. It’s not, it’s not going to change anything. We’ll, we’ll get our justice....Please, we can get along here. We all can get along. I mean, we’re all stuck here for a while. Let’s try to work it out. Let’s try to beat it. Let’s try to beat it. Let’s try to work it out.

not divisive, eh?

Thanks :)

Why am I smiling. lol

but I agree.

I know it makes you uncomfortable, Cloud, but it's really not healthy to completely internalize and avoid all conflict. And I say this as an extremely non-confrontational person in real life--I very much understand the feeling, but it's impossible to avoid all negativity all the time. If people have a problem, it needs to get talked about. If there was nothing divisive about the issue, then it wouldn't be a problem in the first place. It's not the moderators' place to play Mommy and Daddy.