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Shawnee123 03-23-2009 12:33 PM

I guess that depends on your definition of "obvious comparison." I can't see that comparison having very much to do with your argument, except that it made me think of Hitler's Breed of Perfect People and your vision of perfect animals. My comparison was to point out the irony of your comparison, fwiw.

Nirvana 03-23-2009 12:41 PM

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out because I was not a Jew.
[embellishment]"Then they came for the animal owners and I did not speak out because I was not a breeder."[/embellishment]
Then they came for me,[embellishment]and my animals[/embellishment] and there was no one left to speak for me.

Pastor Martin Niemöller

Shawnee123 03-23-2009 12:42 PM

OK.

Nirvana 03-23-2009 12:44 PM

You cannot give me visions that do not exist in my mind. I don't have a vision of perfect animals because I am intelligent enough to know there is no such thing.

Trilby 03-23-2009 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nirvana (Post 548719)
...I don't have a vision of perfect animals because I am intelligent enough to know there is no such thing.

do me a favor - don't tell my cat that.

Nirvana 03-23-2009 12:48 PM

Brianna no worries, perfection of the soul abounds in animals :)

Trilby 03-23-2009 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Nirvana (Post 548722)
Brianna no worries, perfection of the soul abounds in animals :)

except for...you know, sea animals! And alligators!

DanaC 03-23-2009 05:02 PM

Oh please. Please, Nirvana, tell me you didn't bastardise that powerful statement on fascism to make a point about the 'plight' of dog breeders.

I'm sorry, Nirvana, but I find that absurd and distasteful.

Nirvana 03-23-2009 07:51 PM

I appreciate your POV Dana I am sorry that you found my way of making a point absurd.

monster 03-23-2009 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanaC (Post 548587)
Pilau was devastated to read this. I had to talk him out of asking UT to ban him...

Tell him I'm just a monster on the internet that good doggies never get to meet. he only needs worry if he steals more snausages......

Fucker in the park today had a huge black lab thing off the leash (illegal) running way ahead of him. As the MF bounds straight for me, my dog-liking friend is trying to insert herself between me and it, the owner jogs up and calls him off about 2 feet away, then runs past and mutters "he's friendly". grrrr. that's what they always say after the MFs have mauled some child to death "he was slways such a friendly dog, wouldn't harm a fly....." :rolleyes:

Decca 03-24-2009 03:13 PM

As a once-co-owner of a dog rescue which dealt with the unfortunate aftermath of puppy mills and unwanted dogs, all I'm going to say about this whole mess is that I agree with the concept of creating and enforcing laws governing the existence of puppy mills. The vast majority of pet mills create poorly-bred, faulty, inbred, overpriced pets that are neither suitable as pets or as breeding stock... which is unfortunately where many of the intact puppy mill dogs end up, creating further inferior puppies in a vicious cycle. I have nothing against hobby breeders, who seek to IMPROVE the breed and who (usually) hold themselves to strict guidelines when selecting breeding stock and who (again, usually) either sell their imperfect puppies already fixed, or under a spay/neuter contract. I respect those who devote a good chunk of their lives creating beautiful animals, whether they be dogs, cats, horses, fish, or birds :)

TheMercenary 03-27-2009 10:24 AM

I thought this was another thread about Octo-mom.

sugarpop 03-28-2009 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crimson Ghost (Post 547969)
What is a hobby breeder?

Octo-mom?

That's what I was thinking! :D


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