In this situation, you are 100% correct. You've already proven yourself to be a troll, so your words mean nothing, at least to me. :)

There is no reason to explain anything to Parmenion, juju. They have serious trouble reading and exist only to spew venom. They are of the lowest order of trolls, those who cannot compose a well crafted message and must therefore provoke by insult. Don't waste your time with them, because they are not interested in discussion. They have issues that they are unable to address in a positive manner and so they take out their anger in online communities. They are best added to the Ignore list (under user cp) and forgotten.

Truly, as far as I can see, nobody here was saying that "words mean nothing" or "words don't have effects". The discussion was about the effects speech can have <i>beyond</i> the speaker's concious, even express, intent.

I think Parmenion's intention was quite clear to everyone, and completely inapproriate.

Been there, done that, own the T-shirt...and it sucks ass. I've met a bunch of so-called self proclaimed "older and wiser" folk, and a lot of times, the extent of their "wisdom" amounted to a hill of beans! By the same token, I've met younger people who had a lot to say, and sounded years ahead of their older counterparts.

I currently work closely in my department with an older woman (I think she's in her fifties or early sixties). She's a great person, and she doesn't reek of that "I'm older, therefore I'm right all of the time" crap. I feel that we are equal in our efforts to get the job done, and get it done right. Sometimes, she'll come across a tad bit "high and mighty", but it's so mild that it's not a big deal.

Age has little to do with it.

Old folks who think they have all the answers thought they had all the answers when they were young and couldn't understand why older folks thought they had all the answers.

[quote]Originally posted by Parmenion
[b]Ladysycamore sed:
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Well said. That's pretty much hitting the nail on the head as far as I'm concerned. You can't imagine the amount of times that I MUST tell people that they absolutely do.not.own such a "power" over people.
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Oh excellent. People have no power over other people, but you just <I>MUST</I> tell others what they have and haven't got a right to do.

My statement was about power over MYSELF, not others.

Try eating less, maybe your fat head will stop being full of cholesterol and a couple of brain cells will recover.

Thanks to Lipitor, my cholesterol is down. :-)


[b]Like any afro-americans wouldn't be annoyed by this post.{/B]

*shrugs* Oh well. If they do, then they do. And?

[quote]Originally posted by Parmenion
Besides, shouldn't you be helping your fat significant other with her dialysis machine, or something?

Gee, how did you know that he helps out? I'd doubt you'd do the same, with your evil self.

Maybe go to the hospital again, and have your heart checked. Short fat white fucks like you have an ever-decreasing life span these days.

You could easily be put on that list as well...

Hope you enjoy life by the time you're fifty or sixty, if you even get there, smoker boy.

Hrm...interesting choice of words...

<snip pathetic garbage>

Anyway, time to killfile (ignore-list) both of you - and Sycamore's fat useless woman.


Whooo, such a BIG man now. Use that big, bad killfile...LMAO! This is priceless!

For all four of your posts, Parm, you really look like a badass.

Too bad you won't let us in on your true identity so that we could all killfile that one as well.

I think the mistake being made here is thinking that one should bother replying to Parmenion. They are sorely full of themselves ("But my words still hurt." when no one really cares about their opinion or what they say at all) and are just looking for attention. That's fine - we all need attention. But I don't think it's worth it to give to someone who won't give back. They are hiding behind a handle because they are afraid - whether they'll admit it or not. That's okay, it's just a bother having to read through their posts.

Again, I'd recommend putting Parmenion on your ignore list and forgetting about them.

The posts are like car wrecks...you can't help but look at 'em.

Dave, your post and the other postings today reminded me of an Ice-T line: "They talk a mean fight, but fight like hoes."

Hey...stop the presses! When did I solely become white? I better call my mom...

Third asking, dham. <i>I'm</i> not about to let diversionary gambits take me off-point.

I believe you are on his ignore list.

Oh. Well, I wasn't about to let someone profit by that whole sordid mess. For me that reinforces the "diversionary tactic" theory over the "random troll" theory.

For me, it reinforces the "Some people are tired of Maggie's bullshit" theory.

Well, there's all kinds of BS.

You see posts that mention things I (and a number of other people) wrote about and you're suspicious it's me, even though anybody who runs a Cellar search has all that information too.

I see posts that I know I didn't write, perhaps clumsily crafted to look like they came from me, and then somebody opens a thread in their own forum openly accusing me (with no more evidence than you or I have) of being the sockpuppet, and I develop my own suspicions.

Tony's client-string information is interesting, though...if I was going though an anonymizing proxy I probably wouldn't bother to hack the client string, even though in the past I've busted sockpuppets on mailing lists because they were using an obscure mail client that had a distinctive header.

So, if dham was in the same situation, I don't think he would bother with it either. For my money that suggests strongly that somebody else is responsible for that crap.