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Torrere 02-13-2008 01:08 PM

Black voters probably don't make up as large a portion of the electorate as middle-aged white women. However, the press has been astounded by the way that Obama has carried the black vote by 90% in most states since South Carolina.

Recently there seemed to be a demographic divide between the Clinton and Obama supporters: Obama has carried young voters (where by "young", I mean under 45), black voters, and the well educated / well off. Clinton has carried older voters (ie > 65), white women, hispanics, and unions.

In yesterday's Virginia primary, however, Obama won every demograpic group except white women, and I think that Clinton's only strong bastion of support was among white women older than 45.

classicman 02-13-2008 01:47 PM

The Media is pushing Obama hard and most people are sheep - they will just follow along and "do as they're told." Either way, it looks like he's got it wrapped up unless she can pull some of Jimx's magic rabbits out of her a**.

aimeecc 02-13-2008 02:03 PM

I'm confused by the polls stating its this or that demographic voting this or that way. There were no pollsters where I voted. So what, they stand at one station and get the snapshot of American voters from there? Or do they just pull this stuff from their behind and convince us its true?

Just think. We get to do this again in 4 more years. I bet Jeb Bush will run then.

lookout123 02-13-2008 02:07 PM

well, if he doesn't you don't have to worry long. Neal Bush and Chelsea will be ready soon.

Griff 02-13-2008 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by aimeecc (Post 432122)
I'm confused by the polls stating its this or that demographic voting this or that way. There were no pollsters where I voted. So what, they stand at one station and get the snapshot of American voters from there? Or do they just pull this stuff from their behind and convince us its true?

I was polled coming out of a rural voting station once. I think it was back when I voted for Ron Paul as the Libertarian's candidate for Pres. I'd suggest that they can do a decent job on polling if that's their goal. NPR did a piece this evening on a Clinton supporter, who is being sued by stockholders, who paid Bill three million bucks and happens to do CNN's polling... The media may really be jumping ship.

Clodfobble 02-13-2008 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by lookout123
well, if he doesn't you don't have to worry long. Neal Bush and Chelsea will be ready soon.

Chelsea, maybe. Neil Bush... oh hell no. He's got way too much dirty laundry, of the provable kind. It's hard to start a political career when you've admitted on public record that you had numerous encounters with overseas prostitutes, which led to your very messy divorce, shortly after which you marry a close family friend, and your ex-wife alleges that your new wife's youngest child was actually sired by you rather than her ex-husband... And that doesn't even count the drug allegations. :)

deadbeater 02-13-2008 08:38 PM

Here's the frustrating thing about McCain: McCain, even without catering to conservtive views, could be a foil to Obamamania that Clinton can never be; however, the conservatives apparently don't care for 'Straight Talk' either. While they are spoiled brats, McCain is too nice. I think McCain should do one of his own Sister Soulja moments to Ann Coulter.

TheMercenary 02-14-2008 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by deadbeater (Post 432231)
Here's the frustrating thing about McCain: McCain, even without catering to conservtive views, could be a foil to Obamamania that Clinton can never be; however, the conservatives apparently don't care for 'Straight Talk' either. While they are spoiled brats, McCain is too nice. I think McCain should do one of his own Sister Soulja moments to Ann Coulter.

WTF does any of that mean??:rolleyes:

lookout123 02-14-2008 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble (Post 432194)
Chelsea, maybe. Neil Bush... oh hell no. He's got way too much dirty laundry, of the provable kind. It's hard to start a political career when you've admitted on public record that you had numerous encounters with overseas prostitutes, which led to your very messy divorce, shortly after which you marry a close family friend, and your ex-wife alleges that your new wife's youngest child was actually sired by you rather than her ex-husband... And that doesn't even count the drug allegations. :)

Once upon a time it was unheard of to have a presidential run if you'd smoked a joint. or had previous affairs made public. or snorted a line. or had a DUI. Times change - and don't forget his last name is Bush. Will all of that really seem that bad when held up against previous Bush accomplishments?;)

deadbeater 02-17-2008 06:47 PM

Bank fraud? Someone has to draw the line there.

xoxoxoBruce 02-17-2008 08:18 PM

Not as long as the only one getting burned is the FDIC (us)

deadbeater 02-17-2008 08:37 PM

Don't forget, bureaucrats vote too.

xoxoxoBruce 02-17-2008 11:18 PM

Presumably in their own self interest.

classicman 02-18-2008 07:32 AM

Dn't we all Bruce, don't we all?


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