I got a leaflet from the Post Office for the Brits:

UK - Australia & New Zealand: Friday 7 December (International Airmail)
UK - USA & Japan: Monday 10 December (International Airmail)
UK - UK: Thursday 20 December (1st Class)

We've missed Surface Mail posting dates already!
Please note the above are last recommended posting dates

I think we need to get this under way for those of us who want to participate but might have trouble paying higher postage costs. Alternatively, perhaps it should just be for US and Canadian Cellarites and leave the rest of us out of it.

There's not really any other way to say we need to know pretty soon is there?

And I don't know what the postage dates are, but in the past it's always been a matter of getting it in the post at least 6 weeks before the big day or you've got no chance. Traditionally even then it's a risk from here.

If I had time I'd go to the post office and find out, but I do not.

would the world end if you didnt get your pressie before the 25th?

the world wont end either way. to be honest, I really don't care anymore.

Just take my name off the list please monster.

one final thing. I was more concerned about getting a gift to the other person than recieving my own. I like to put time and effort into every gift I give otherwise there's no point doing it.

I wasn't planning on sending a crap present regardless of whose name came up for me.

Anyway, it doesn't matter now. I'm out of the game.

Now don't get all mad and stuff ,
You know Lj just likes to poke !!

yep I know. I don't think he took it personally anyway. Don't mind me.

I really wasn't trying to be rude at all, actually. I was just saying that it's not such a big deal if they get there a wee bit late. I actually like that one last present that you get from an out of town aunt or whatever.... sorry if i came off tersely.

I didn't think you were being terse.

I was just having a meltdown.

Things are better now. It's amazing what one nice big cuddle can do.

I will consider for next year. I'm too much of a noob now still.

Zippy: 12 or 13 I think.

1 Dec is plenty of time to buy and mail from UK and from US to all 3 continents (airmail), but I don't know about from Aus. Ali, I know you were concerned about mailing out and not the other way, but I didn't think I deserved that tirade, I was asking a straightforward question. Doesn't your post office issue last mailing dates? We are already way too late for overland mailing which is why I didn't consider that option and it never occured to me that's what you were thinking. Also, I have seen other international secret santas and far too many overland packages fail to turn up at all. Airmail is much more reliable and not too expensive if you shop with mailing in mind. Do you still want to be removed now you've calmed down?

What tirade? I said take my name off the list please. Forget I ever entered into the idea.

I had a lot more to say here which would have looked a lot more like a tirade than what I'd previously written, which in my opinion was a person simply asking for some consideration. Obviously that's too much to ask in the grand scheme of things. Fortunately for everyone I decided to delete it before I posted it.

maybe she's in her house....reedin o'er yer shoulder?

nope...she's not.