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Please Cicero, don't hold back your anger simply because I run the place.
And don't let my message #2 prevent you from going all-out, too. I was actually wondering how long it would take before we would go from that message, to some sort of assault on me. I figured first someone would use it as a springboard for their political side. Either one would be highly ironic and weak. Well of course, check and mate. But there's a good side. It turns out that most people on the thread find my cubicle-farming to be deeply compassionate work. I make a good amount of money by doing that, rather than doing something in the outside world, and damn, I am now just full of compassion. If you aren't paying as much tax as I am, perhaps you can be compassionate in some other way. Probably not AS compassionate, but not all of us are blessed with the intelligence and skills to reach this particular level of compassion. Hey maybe you could try sucking dick? If you really suck a lot you can make more money, pay higher taxes, and then you can be compassionate too! |
We had the same thing here under Thatcher: the teenage single mum who gets pregnant 'to get a council flat'. I daresay if you rtrawled the country you could have found a few girls who'd done exactly that...but mostly teenage girls had kids because they a) got accidentally preggers, b) had some vague notion of baby as somewhere across between a doll and a pet and hadn't really understood how tying and how much hard work they are, or c) they were troubled kids with a deep need for something that would be completely theirs, someone who would love them unconditionally.
There are other possible reasons. To suggest that across the country vast armies of girls were getting knocked up to get a council flat was disingenuous to say the least. |
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No stand-up guy to come along in your defense UT. :eyebrow: I would but I am too dumbfounded at the moment. Maybe you should have called her a name instead of making up a sensible alternative scenario. |
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there are plenty of examples of people stepping out of poverty and achieving success - whatever that means to them. they achieved something because they thought something was a worthy goal and they did what it takes to achieve it. if you want something bad enough to work for it, you can achieve it. if you can't it is because you didn't want it bad enough. end of story. |
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Actually, I'm probably using the wrong word when I say 'right', the word that's more appropriate is 'entitlement'.
If you are accessing something to which you are entitled as a citizen, that is less humiliating and damaging than if you are asking for help/charity which is not an entitlement. |
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Spade makes some conclusions that are evidence he doesn't understand how it works at street level. |
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