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yesman065 08-08-2007 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Ibram (Post 372949)
I hate kids. I absolutely do not want to deal with any. A vasectomy fixes that problem, and if I change my mind, it's a simple process to extract some.

Not exactly - I have been looking into it and its actually rather complex and there is NO definitive outcome.
get it ...outcome!! :eyebrow:

Aliantha 08-09-2007 03:42 AM

They wont give anyone surgeries to prevent conception unless they've

a) had kids and know they wont want any more.
b) have consulted with the spouse or any other interested parties and
c) unless the person is of an appropriately mature age.

This is a fact. Go look it up before you argue.

If Ibram wants to go ahead and do it, good on him. I'm simply stating a fact.

Ibby 08-09-2007 03:52 AM

Da-dum tch.

Ibby 08-09-2007 03:53 AM

Just because it's extremely unlikely that they'll do the surgery... doesnt mean i don't want it done.

Aliantha 08-09-2007 04:02 AM

I never said you don't, or shouldn't. I just presented you with a few facts. That's all.

I have no influence over you anyway, so what would my opinion matter? Whatever it happens to be on this one.

bluecuracao 08-09-2007 04:06 AM

I've known from a very early age (maybe not at 15, but not long after) that I didn't want to have kids...and that hasn't really ever changed. Not to say that I haven't considered it here and there along the way. But ultimately, it's a big no for me.

Ib, take it or leave it, but I suggest you keep your options open for a while, and just be as careful as you can possibly be.

Aliantha 08-09-2007 04:11 AM

Honestly, I had definitely decided I didn't want any more kids. Had even spoken to my doc about getting my tubes tied.

Then I met Dazza and everything changed.

Now we can't get preggers anyway. I'm thinking I might as well have had the op. :(

DanaC 08-09-2007 04:14 AM

Y'know it's funny. When I was younger I always thought that my future would include kids...would be able to imagine havin them around and stuff...but never wanted them *now*. I tried to want them. My partner wanted kids, and like I said, I had thought I wanted them. But like, first off I started to realise that I seriously didn't want to co-parent with him (and that became really not wanting to co-parent) but I hadn't yet give n up the idea I might, someday.

It's funny, I was scared that I would get to a time when I couldn't have kids and think, shit...blew that good and proper. But, fear of regret is a shitty reason to have kids no? *chuckles* It's probably only really the last 6 months that I've reconciled with myself, that actually...I do not want children. If I accidentally got preggers I'd deal with it and might even keep it, but having kids is not part of my future plans. Thing is...underneath it all, I think I always kind of knew it wasn't my scene, probably from the same age as you, blue.

DanaC 08-09-2007 04:15 AM

That's tough Ali. That's really tough.

Aliantha 08-09-2007 04:28 AM

Well it really sucks, but it's a good reason to have plenty of sex, so that's a plus. It's been good for our relationship as opposed to how it can often isolate people within relationships.

You can't get mad at someone you just made love with, and when you get your period and are feeling all depressed, it's nice to have someone to cry with.

Ibby 08-09-2007 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha (Post 373214)
I have no influence over you anyway, so what would my opinion matter? Whatever it happens to be on this one.

Aw, now that isn't true, dearie. Most of you here on the cellar have a lot of influence on me... And not even all bad influence, either!

glatt 08-09-2007 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Ibram (Post 372949)
You can still reproduce after a vasectomy... you just won't do it by accident.

...

A vasectomy fixes that problem, and if I change my mind, it's a simple process to extract some.

Ibram, this is exactly why a legitimate doctor won't perform the procedure on you. You are uninformed.

It's extremely rare, difficult, and expensive to extract sperm from a testicle and use it for artificial insemination or in vitro fertilization. The other option, a vasectomy reversal, is possible, but the longer you wait after the vasectomy was performed, the less likely it is to work, because the unused vas slowly seals itself shut permanently like a pierced ear with no earring in it. A vasectomy reversal is also expensive. Health insurance doesn't typically cover these elective surgeries.

Vasectomies should always be treated as a permanent birth control solution.

xoxoxoBruce 08-10-2007 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Ibram (Post 373207)
Just because it's extremely unlikely that they'll do the surgery... doesnt mean i don't want it done.

Wanting it done doesn't make it the right thing for you to do either.
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Maybe I'm a brainwashed liberal hippy. I dont know what I am.
You're right there. You are years away from finding who/what you are and it's way too early to be making decisions like this.


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