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xoxoxoBruce 04-01-2006 05:14 PM

Sure he took advantage, he took advantage of his position, he took advantage of his status, he took advantage of his power.

So does mick Jagger.

I'm having a hard time picturing the Prof as Snidely Whiplash, threatening Pentalope Pureheart to give it up, or lose the ranch.
It takes two.

I have no trouble conjuring up, however, Pentalope flirting with Snidely for personal gain and him taking advantage of it. Whether Pentalope got screwed depends of what she was after. That's what happens when you equate sex with love. :smack:

marichiko 04-01-2006 06:39 PM

I doubt that Bri was trying to flirt her way to a better grade. When I took physics in college, we had a professor who told the class a little story about one of his previous female students who visited him in his office just before finals.

"I'll do ANYTHING to get a better grade," she said.

The prof looked double at her and said "ANYTHING?"

"Yes," she replied, "ANYTHING!"

"Then try studying," he told her.

Then the physics prof went on to say to us, "My advise to all of you is the same. If you are having difficulty in my class, I'm willing to try to help you during my office hours. Other than that, try studying the book and your notes."

Just because you can take advantage of someone doesn't make it right if you do.

Rock Steady 04-02-2006 12:50 AM

Note that "Brianna" and "Issac" are at different colleges. It is not a direct faculty/student relationship. This was just a plain old fashioned mind fuck. Dr. Poet knows how to romance and manipulate. This had nothing to do with grades.

Brianna, find a nice engineer. We might lack social skills, but we're straight up. Start dating again and lose contact with Issac.

Walk up to a too-short-pants guy on line at Starbucks and ask him if you can buy him a beverage. Bonus if he has a laptop with him. They have a good CS dept at your college. A coffee shop near there should be fertile with guys without wedding bands and funny looking socks.

xoxoxoBruce 04-02-2006 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by marichiko
I doubt that Bri was trying to flirt her way to a better grade.

I agree...more likely to try to please an authority/father figure.
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Just because you can take advantage of someone doesn't make it right if you do.
Yes, and that works both ways.
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Originally Posted by Rock Steady
Note that "Brianna" and "Issac" are at different colleges.

Not when this whole thing started.

Look, the history and fault/blame shit can be debated ad infinitum, but the bottom line is.....STOP IT.
Get away and stay away from this asshole. Any more bullshit is entirely self inflicted. :eyebrow:

Rock Steady 04-02-2006 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce
I agree...more likely to try to please an authority/father figure.
Yes, and that works both ways.
Not when this whole thing started.

Look, the history and fault/blame shit can be debated ad infinitum, but the bottom line is.....STOP IT.
Get away and stay away from this asshole. Any more bullshit is entirely self inflicted. :eyebrow:

I see where you get the X's and O's in your moniker.

Lucy 04-02-2006 02:51 PM

I'm with Bruce. Enough is enough.

marichiko 04-02-2006 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Look, the history and fault/blame shit can be debated ad infinitum, but the bottom line is.....STOP IT.
Get away and stay away from this asshole. Any more bullshit is entirely self inflicted. :eyebrow:

I agree. I know the type Bri got involved with from first hand experience. They are emotionally devastating and very hard to disengage from. There are many support groups out on the Net for people who are going through what Bri and I did. I never would have made it through this past year without my online support groups. I ended up meeting some of these folks IRL and/or talking on the phone with them, corresponding privately via e-mail, etc. Those folks opened my eyes and saved my ass. I haven't spoken with the ax murderer since the end of last November, and I can't wait to leave here and never see him again. You can bet that I certainly won't even be telling him I'm going, much less telling him where.

Bri needs to save herself and walk away - maybe even transfer to another school. Just get away and get him out of her life.

Rock Steady 04-02-2006 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce
Not when this whole thing started.

This is factually incorrect. Brianna has been in Ohio and Issac has been in Massachusetts. He found her on a poetry forum and sweet talked her to meeting him in Pittsburgh. Some online pretators are young, jobless losers and some are rich, successful and smart with mother-rejection issues.

Mari and I have offered some constructive avenues of action. Do you have any potential solutions to offer Brianna?

Trilby 04-02-2006 04:46 PM

Ok. I am responsible for carrying on with him after I knew he was married. Something he was NOT forthcoming about. He told me AFTER he knew I was in love with him in a "by the way..." sort of manner. I should have stopped there. I didn't. The rest is indeed my fault. He was good, though. Very manipulative and I am pretty needy (shocker, huh?) When it's all said and done, I should have said goodbye a looooong time ago. I did not. I am paying the price for hanging on like a fool. He is an arrogant, snobby, elitist man who cheats on his wife. That is it. He's nothing more than that. Thanks for listening (again) and I am over him. If I ever bring him up again you all have permission to shoot me.

From RateMyProf.com--what some of his former student say about him: "arrogant", "self-inflated", "bitter", "condescending", "overly complimentry to female students", "dorky", "intellectual dross", "about as funny as the AIDS quilt (from a student who took him for Comedy and Satire)---the list goes on.

xoxoxoBruce 04-02-2006 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Rock Steady
This is factually incorrect.

I stand corrected
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Mari and I have offered some constructive avenues of action. Do you have any potential solutions to offer Brianna?
I certainly do, and so have many others here, in some other threads she started.
It's well past offering her a hankie and sharing a chocolate cake, time. That just prolongs the agony.
Time to slap her up side the head and yell at her....GET OVER IT.
Your coddling and commiserating is ruining her life by letting her slip back into the self pity she has to shake off.

I know, I know, I'm just an insensitive lout, I'm a beast, I'm a...a...a man.
True, all true, but I'm also right. :p

Rock Steady 04-02-2006 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce
I stand corrected I certainly do, and so have many others here, in some other threads she started.
It's well past offering her a hankie and sharing a chocolate cake, time. That just prolongs the agony.
Time to slap her up side the head and yell at her....GET OVER IT.
Your coddling and commiserating is ruining her life by letting her slip back into the self pity she has to shake off.

I know, I know, I'm just an insensitive lout, I'm a beast, I'm a...a...a man.
True, all true, but I'm also right. :p

Peace. A combo of your tough love with my unconditional love is probably the Rx here.

I don't think you are a insensitive lout at all. But, why do men always have to have it right/wrong, black/white, when the world is in full technicolor? Mathematical logic shows that systems are either Incomplete or Inconsistent. Either you can prove TRUE==FALSE, or there are TRUE statements that are unprovable. Life is Complete, therefore it is Inconsistent.

xoxoxoBruce 04-02-2006 08:03 PM

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But, why do men always have to have it right/wrong, black/white, when the world is in full technicolor?
Because that's the only way anything gets accomplished. Crying over mistakes doesn't help. Access the damage, formulate a plan and move on, wiser and prepared to make bigger and better mistakes.:D

sandypossum 04-05-2006 04:17 AM

My god, he DOES look like Mr Burns!!! Have you counted how many fingers he has?

bluecuracao 04-06-2006 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Brianna
I will protect myself. I hate being vulnerable. This won't happen again. That is the only consolation I have. I've collected up all the stuff he's given to me over the last three years and I'm mailing it to him. Now, should I send it to his wife or send it to where he works?

Eh...it's probably already too late, but I suggest tossing all the shit out. In cases like these, it's best to burn bridges.

Trilby 04-06-2006 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by bluecuracao
Eh...it's probably already too late, but I suggest tossing all the shit out. In cases like these, it's best to burn bridges.

I tossed it. No sense hurting his wife.


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