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Griff 09-07-2018 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 1014585)
...oh, and Griff, can't get internet with any speed from anyone at any price.
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My grandparents lived on a dirt road only 13 miles from the third largest city in MA. Yet they didn't get a phone until 1939, and electricity until 1949. The density didn't justify the investment until the utilities got pushed by the government.

Somebody is spending, I wonder if it's in the right place. Right place for profit I guess.

Yep. That's what I care about. Those damn hippys at the electric coop are fighting for the right to string cable, we may end up with better and cheaper than you urban dudes but we'll be retired by then. Y'all should see Pete when she tries to work from home, good thing she's pretty easy going.

Also f*ck Frontier.

xoxoxoBruce 09-07-2018 01:04 PM

That's a goddamn crime in this day and age.:mad2:

tw 09-07-2018 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 1014585)
One package I had contained 128 channels I was paying for, that were religion, or in a foreign language. But I had to buy them to get what I really wanted.

Then it gets even more interesting. Comcast fills that cable with stations duplicated. You play $50 per month for low resolution TV. Or pay extra to have access to other channels that carry the same TV show in HD.

One can get full High Definition via an OTA antennas. But one must pay extra for it from Comcast.

So channel 5 consumes 6 Mhz for the low resolution version. And another 5 Mhz for the same channel 5 TV show in high resolution.

They could have broadcast to everyone only in High Definition. Then that massive available bandwidth can be used to avoid internet congestion. But that would not increase profits. And get the information providers to pay for infrastructure upgrades.

Meanwhile customers must pay $100 per month for the same TV resolution that is standard in OTA broadcasts. Just another way to increase profits so that Comcast can buy more companies, build more skyscrapers, etc.

With destruction of net neutrality, it will only get worse (more expensive) faster.

Undertoad 11-16-2018 01:39 PM

net neutrality update
 
Rules dropped five months ago

~ Nothing has happened yet ~

End of update, see you in the spring

tw 11-16-2018 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by tw (Post 1014617)
So channel 5 consumes 6 Mhz for the low resolution version. And another 5 Mhz for the same channel 5 TV show in high resolution.

I am now informed that each channel is broadcast on three channels on cable. One in analog. One in digital. And third in high definition. For each upgrade they charge more.

Meanwhile broadcast TV broadcasts everything only in HD - and for free.

If Comcast cannot provide full bandwidth to all customers, then they are wasting bandwidth to increase profits. Instead they want to restrict bandwidth and even charge the Content Providers (ie YouTube, Netflix, Hulu) a surcharge.

All done because they have no competition - having bought the politicians they need.

Gravdigr 11-17-2018 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by tw (Post 1019049)
I am now informed that each channel is broadcast on three channels on cable. One in analog. One in digital. And third in high definition. For each upgrade they charge more.

Meanwhile broadcast TV broadcasts everything only in HD - and for free

Wow, you really are on top of things aren't you?

:lol2:

xoxoxoBruce 11-17-2018 08:54 PM

Got an email tonight.
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It’s Fios® Customer Appreciation Month. And to thank you for your loyalty, your internet has been upgraded to ultrafast Fios 100/100M—at no additional cost. With this upgrade, you can now stream and upload faster than before, and connect more devices at the same time.

tw 11-20-2018 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Gravdigr (Post 1019106)
Wow, you really are on top of things aren't you?

Always amazing how simple technical facts impress wacko extremists.

It is the difference between moderates who are educated verse Rush Limbaugh and Fox New disciples who are so easily brainwashed.

Unfortunately too many adults are still children - easily brainwashed by talk show hosts. So Trump is the president. And a economic recession has started.

He does not badmouth the Don - an anti-American Hitler and Putin lover. So moderates must attack that low intelligence. The Don says we must be this way. It must continue until even wacko extremists (all similar to Henry Quirk) finally admit to their mistake.

Shocking are how the non-Americans hear remain silent - do not constantly post what the rest of the free world sees. The President of France says Europe needs a European army to protect itself from America. Once, that was ridiculous. Not today. View Gravdigr posts to appreciate the new threat - an adult who is thinking like a child.

Sorry. This is not nasty enough because you are a wacko extremist Donald Trump (anti-American) supporter. As demonstrated by tacit support for KKK, Nazis, and White Supremacists. Extermist hate and the love of The Don earns you this honesty.

Gravdigr 11-21-2018 03:15 PM

Look ya insane son-of-bitch, I ain't affiliated in any goddamned way with, nor do I support in any way ANY fucking racist organization.

You motherfucking piece of shit. Fuck you and fuck your goddamned mama for birthing your insane ass.

There's your emotional childish response, ya cock-sucking son-of-a-bitch.

Now, change the subject again ya fucking insane motherfucker.

:D

Gravdigr 11-21-2018 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by tw (Post 1019289)
Extermist hate and the love of The Don earns you this honesty.

You wouldn't know 'honesty' if honesty butt-fucked you while wearing a shirt that says "You're being butt-fucked by Honesty".

And learn to spell, ya dumbass.

henry quirk 11-23-2018 10:31 AM

"It must continue until even wacko extremists (all similar to Henry Quirk) finally admit to their mistake."

Which mistake is that?

Entertaining 'you'?

And, please, define 'wacko extremist'. You been tossin' that out for ages without any real explanation.

Finally: it's gratifyin' to be in your head so much that you use me as 'example'. You love me and want to give me babies. Wish I could oblige (cuz this old world needs more of 'me' in it) but you just ain't my cuppa tea.

tw 11-24-2018 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Gravdigr (Post 1019334)
You wouldn't know 'honesty' if honesty butt-fucked

An honest man could defend himself with simple factual statements. A wacko extremists (ie Nazi, White Supremacist, or KKK) must resort to threats and profanity. An example of an adults who thinks like a child.

Complete with a tantrum. What an example.

And now you want to be an English Nazi to boot?

tw 11-24-2018 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by henry quirk (Post 1019446)
And, please, define 'wacko extremist'.

An example:
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Originally Posted by henry quirk (Post 1019489)
Of course [Trumps] a lyin' motherfucker,
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I didn't hire him to be honest, I hired him to wreck shit.

Little different from bin Laden, Nazis, White Supremacists, KKK, and Timothy McVeigh.

henry quirk 11-24-2018 08:07 PM

tw
 
Let's try sumthin' new.

You and me, in this place, represent archetypes.

You: the best of the communitarian impulse.

Me: the worst of the libertarian impulse.

You're maximized security, common weal, and stability.

I'm maximized autonomy, self-direction, and agency.

It's no wonder we hate each other's guts.

We have no common ground.

In a real sense, we're aliens to one another.

You see me as unprincipled anarchic force.

I see you as smothering death caul.

This isn't gonna change.

So: I propose the following...

As we can, we leave each other be; where we can't, we attempt civility and discussion.

Nuthin' good comes from our current approaches to one another, and mebbe nuthin' good will come from what I suggest, but it's worth a shot, yeah?

tw 11-25-2018 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by henry quirk (Post 1019537)
Let's try sumthin' new.

You stop posting. And I will stop reading insults.

You cannot even separate basic concepts from the person.

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Originally Posted by DanaC (Post 1019454)
'gender neutral' is how this is being reported - but it's an over simplification
He was responding to someone contending that God is a woman:

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Originally Posted by henry quirk (Post 1019460)
autism strikes again



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