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Undertoad 04-30-2009 12:07 PM

Plus it's useful in DeepLeap when you have the dreaded C and U.

Meursault 04-30-2009 12:11 PM

actually, i'v seen female genitalia referred to by the words 'cunnus' and 'cunnie' in a few latin texts, and may even have seen a similiar word, like "kunsos" or something, in greek. i wouldn't be surprised if this one goes back to indo-european. if i had access to books right now i'd try seeing if there were a similar word in an indian language perhaps....

DanaC 04-30-2009 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Brianna (Post 561622)
this one (dare I call her?) woman I know calls it her "peachy."

I LOVE the word cunt. It is a most spectacular word and has been hijacked by an ungrateful and brutish society. Said right, it's a very sexy word.

*Nods emphatically*

DanaC 04-30-2009 12:29 PM

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CUNNING; to know, possessing a practical skill, able, skilful, clever, possessing a magical knowledge
1874 "I threatened to prosecute the village CUNNING WOMAN whose herbal knowledge and other wisdom continued to be held in high esteem by the villagers" (Silbury 112)
Note that the author himself does not hold the woman in high esteem.The villagers hold her in high esteem. He is using the word 'cunning' in its perjorative sense: her knowledge and wisdom is of a dangerous and immoral form. It is not the virtuous learning of an educated man, rather it is the depths to which a woman can sink if her passions and natural proclivities are not contained. By 1874 there had already been at least 100 years of holding up 'cunning' as one of the vices women naturally tend to if not given a proper education. The lower-orders also, were considered to have 'cunning' naturally.

ZenGum 05-01-2009 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Sheldonrs (Post 561625)
Cuntankerous - Crotchety.


Boom Boom!



Quote:

Originally Posted by Meursault (Post 561635)
actually, i'v seen female genitalia referred to by the words 'cunnus' and 'cunnie' in a few latin texts, and may even have seen a similiar word, like "kunsos" or something, in greek. i wouldn't be surprised if this one goes back to indo-european. if i had access to books right now i'd try seeing if there were a similar word in an indian language perhaps....

From memory, I've read that cunt is derived from latin, Cunare, meaning wedge, and this is the root (ahem) for cunnilingus, the application of the tounge to said area.
I was a bit puzzled though, I guess the pubic hair is vaguely wedge shaped, but I don't see much wedgeiness in the vulva/vagina itself. (I'll have to look into it more closely!)
I can understand, however, cunare meaning wedge being related to cunning, meaning clever/effective. Splitting, lifting or whatever is often made easier by use of a wedge. And golf.

xoxoxoBruce 05-01-2009 01:50 AM

Whatever you call it here's how to pierce it. Obviously NSFW!

Cloud 05-01-2009 07:23 AM

the one I really can't stand is "vajajay"

blecch

SteveDallas 05-01-2009 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 561837)
Whatever you call it here's how to pierce it. Obviously NSFW!

I didn't watch it, but just the presence of the word "amateur" in the filename make me cringe.

xoxoxoBruce 05-01-2009 10:09 AM

That just means it was submitted by a reader of the site, rather than coming from another site.

Meursault 05-01-2009 11:30 AM

dana: "Note that the author himself does not hold the woman in high esteem.The villagers hold her in high esteem."
actually, if you're gonna nitpick, it's worth noting that the quote says that the woman's "knowledge and wisdom" were held in high esteem by the villagers. i can have great esteem for my doctor's skills and still think she's an ass.
zen: my own memory is often wrong. i definitely recall seeing "cunni" used as a slang term somewhere tho, and it seemed to carry a slightly vulgar tone.
and, since i personally used to call a gf's pubic region in general "the triangle" i can fully understand "the wedge". yeah, this was mainly based on the natural shape of the pubes, and also just kind of the shape of that fine area, where the planes of her hips and perfectly flat stomach converged to point to the promised land....






<...sigh>

DanaC 05-01-2009 01:46 PM

Yes, her knowledge and wisdom is held in high esteem by the villagers, but his designation of her particular kind of knowledge as 'cunning' is heavily imbued with significance. It could only be, in the gendered semiotic of eighteenth and nineteenth-century British culture. It is perjorative in the same way sinister is. Sinister is perjorative because of it's association with left-handedness and homosexuality; cunning is perjorative because of its feminine associations. The culture that produced that tag had spent a century and more reducing female wisdom's cultural status to something less rational or relevant than male wisdom: 'cunning' despite his other references to knowledge and wisdom is 'untutored' and 'natural' ie. female; and potentially dangerous.

Meursault 05-01-2009 02:04 PM

it's 'pejorative' btw

i'm wondering if 'cunning' mightn't also be related to 'ken' (which sounds scottish to me, but i don't have a proper dictionary around..)

SteveDallas 05-01-2009 02:19 PM

kennen ... German, "to know" in the sense of to be familiar with, to be acquainted with (as opposed to factual knowledge).

DanaC 05-01-2009 02:22 PM

Ta for the spelling lesson :P

DanaC 05-01-2009 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveDallas (Post 561938)
kennen ... German, "to know" in the sense of to be familiar with, to be acquainted with (as opposed to factual knowledge).

Could well be a connection then. Both are informal types knowledge.


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