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classicman 12-08-2011 03:03 PM

Corrected link
Would a moderator please correct. kthx

Undertoad 12-08-2011 03:05 PM

fixd

classicman 12-08-2011 03:08 PM

thanks. That was pretty funny actually. :)

Lamplighter 12-10-2011 04:25 PM

We were watching TV, and I realized that the OWS movement is lacking one
of the things that made the movements of the 60's so successful.
Music of the OWS.

Here's a good role model from earlier days:

henry quirk 12-12-2011 11:40 AM

You're right, Lamp...here, let me get the ball rolling...
 
Monkey Vs Robot
James Kochalka


Monkey play in the jungle
Robot work in the factory
they will have a giant rumble
Monkey Versus Robot
Monkey Versus Robot

Monkey hate technology
Robot hate the monkey
they will fight eternally
Monkey Versus Robot
Monkey Versus Robot

Monkey Mate in the jungle
Robot replicate in factory
They both love their mother
why must they hate eachother

Why cant we all get along
would that be oh so wrong?
why cant we all love eachother
monkey and a robot brother

Monkey Versus Robot
Monkey Versus Robot
Monkey Versus Robot
Monkey Versus Robot

M-O-N-K-E-Y MONKEY
R-O-B-O-T ROBOT
M-O-N-K-E-Y MONKEY
R-O-B-O-T ROBOT
M-O-N-K-E-Y MONKEY
R-O-B-O-T ROBOT
M-O-N-K-E-Y MONKEY
R-O-B-O-T ROBOT

Monkey play in the jungle
Robot work in the factory
they will have a giant rumble
Monkey Versus Robot
Monkey Versus Robot

Monkey hate technology
Robot hate the monkey
they will fight eternally
Monkey Versus Robot
Monkey Versus Robot

Monkey Mate in the jungle
Robot replicate in factory
They both love their mother
why must they hate eachother

Why cant we all get along
would that be oh so wrong?
why cant we all love eachother
monkey and a robot brother

Monkey Versus Robot
Monkey Versus Robot
Monkey Versus Robot
Monkey Versus Robot

M-O-N-K-E-Y MONKEY
R-O-B-O-T ROBOT
M-O-N-K-E-Y MONKEY
R-O-B-O-T ROBOT
M-O-N-K-E-Y MONKEY
R-O-B-O-T ROBOT
M-O-N-K-E-Y MONKEY
R-O-B-O-T ROBOT

tw 12-13-2011 07:19 PM

Back to the topic.

Microlending was successful by tapping new technology (ie internet) while doing the purpose of any and every business. To advance mankind. A European could loan a few hundred Euros to a small business woman in Africa. Who in turn might create a telephone kiosk based in cell phones. These resulted in massive productivity increases in that African village. It advanced mankind. Both lender and borrower prospered and therefore profited.

Then business school graduates and other Wall Street types tried to subvert it for self-serving profits. Small farmers in southern Asia were suddenly stuck with multiple microloans they could never pay. Because Wall Street and business school types ignore the purpose of that business. Their solution? Offer him another microloan. Corrupt bean counters did what they also did to American homeowners.

Wall Street and MBA types consider 'loan sharking' to be good. Believe the purpose of a business is only profit. Even insist every transaction will result in one winner and one loser. Wall Streeters, et al are no different than the mafia. They are the reason why microlending suffering so many failures.

Two types of people exist in this world. Those who learn, work for, and advance the product. Who therefore advance mankind. And who **earn** their profits. The second are mafia and business school graduates, so worshipped on Wall Street, who have no idea how the work gets done. Who cannot bother to learn. Whose only purpose in life is to enrich themselves at the expense of America and the world. Who mock the concept called "the advancement of mankind". Who gleefully created in early 2000 the recession we all suffer from. And who now deny there are only corrupt.

Of course, Wall Streeters and business school graduates could not see an innovation even if they sucked it up their nose - which is why cocaine addicts are so common on Wall Street. Which is why drug addiction is good for any mafia business.

Microlending performed by investing in something productive did so much to advance mankind; especially in emerging nations. Once the MBA smelled a profit, then microlenders were suddenly 'loan sharks'.

Every business deal must result in both sides profiting. Honest lenders make sure their borrower will profit. Perverting a successful concept – microlending – if directly traceable to those so corrupt as to say “the purpose of a business is profits - screw the product”. Same people built GM cars. And blamed the unions for some of the world’s crappiest products. Same also want to buy T-mobile to simply eliminate competition. Same also subverting internet growth in the US by enriching and protecting only two local providers (ie Verizon and Comcast).

The purpose of every corrupt organization: make profits by screwing all others. The product be damned. Corruption of microlending is simply another example of the cancer openly protected by wacko extremists and other nasty people. Who gleefully enriched the rich a decade ago and therefore destroy businesses and jobs today. Even harmed emerging populations by corrupting microlending.

classicman 12-13-2011 09:19 PM

wow a new word...

TheMercenary 12-16-2011 01:39 PM

Looks like Obama couldn't occupy Oahu for 18 days after all, should save us a little money.

TheMercenary 12-18-2011 10:55 AM

Milk Street Cafe, FiDi eatery that lost business due to Occupy Wall Street barricades, to close for good

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/milk...ticle-1.990960

Lamplighter 12-18-2011 11:54 AM

Awww, the poor babies on Wall Street are losing their nearby eateries.

... and how many (thousands of) businesses closed for good because Wall Street would not lend credit when it was needed

... and how many (thousands of) homeowners lost their homes for good because those businesses closed for good

Merc, this time you're on the losing side with your attacks aimed at OWS.

TheMercenary 12-23-2011 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lamplighter (Post 781150)
Awww, the poor babies on Wall Street are losing their nearby eateries.

... and how many (thousands of) businesses closed for good because Wall Street would not lend credit when it was needed

... and how many (thousands of) homeowners lost their homes for good because those businesses closed for good

Merc, this time you're on the losing side with your attacks aimed at OWS.

No, the OWS protests failed. They cost the cities millions of taxpayer dollars and in this case closed an independent business and put people out of work. You may think it is nothing more than collateral damage on the way to some larger gain, but that larger gain by the OWS protests failed to do anything. You can bitch and whine about the larger economy but the problem is not in Wall St. It is in government. The point of the spear is pointed in the wrong direction.

TheMercenary 12-23-2011 08:31 AM

In one city alone:

Mayor Calls For Budget Cuts To Offset Millions In Occupy LA Costs

Quote:

The City of Los Angeles reportedly faces millions of dollars in expenses brought about by the Occupy LA movement.

City agencies have been ordered to calculate what was spent on the Occupy LA protests.

Repairs to City Hall’s lawn where the Occupy group set up camp on Oct. 1 will require an estimated $400,000. The police action to clear out the encampment on Nov. 30 cost more than $700,000.

Additional expenses are attributed to hauling away debris from the camp, and cleaning up graffiti that defaced City Hall marble walls and trees.

Mayor Villaraigosa says more budget cuts will be necessary to offset the costs.
http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2011/...cupy-la-costs/

Great job! :thumb:

tw 12-23-2011 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 782435)
No, the OWS protests failed.

They must fail. Limbaugh said we must further enrich the richest to destroy even more American jobs. TheMercenary loves it.

Workers are evil - just as they were in the early 20th Century when the rich were also amassing most of the wealth. And hiring thugs to attack American workers. Eventually too mush wealth amassed by the richest contributed to the other massive recession - the great depression. Keep American workers down and in their place. After all, Limbaugh says that is good. Those most easily attached to a political agenda blindly agree.

The numbers. What Limbaugh disciples never learn. An under 35 year old in 1992 averaged a $45K income. An under 35 year old in 1999 averaged $47K (in 1992 dollars). Then we enriched the rich to create more jobs - as Limbaugh vivaciously advocated. An under 35 years old in 2007 averaged $32K (in 1992 dollars). Wacko extremists called that good for America - even after it resulted in this massive recession. And then said we want Obama and America to fail.

So let’s just blame it all on OWS protesters. And while we are at it, let's also blame them for Mission Accomplished. Oh? Limbaugh has not told us to believe that yet?

Uday 12-27-2011 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 782435)
You can bitch and whine about the larger economy but the problem is not in Wall St. It is in government.

Your friend Uday can not tell the difference.

Griff 12-27-2011 08:01 PM

My friend Uday sees the problem clearly.


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