I downloaded the data and looked at it in Excel, just to see if I could.

You're a hacker working for Franken's campaign! I want a do-over! [/Coleman]

On a serious note,just now, or when the story broke?

A very interesting take on the ramifications of the leak:

or it could prevent someone without the assets who is wrong from filing an appeal. It doesn't apply in this case, but I do not want someones ability to pay to impede what is right.

Is Coleman STILL whining?

When the story broke. Everything was up on Wikileaks.

Looks like we'll get the final count on April 7. Then it's off to the MN Supreme Court.

Finally. Does he get to serve and extra 3 months at the end?

Three months? The Republicans are going to fight tooth and nail to make sure Franken doesn't get seated until it's been through the Federal courts. We could be talking years if the courts, governor, and/or Senate allow it.

I would hope not.

That is friggin ridiculous - We'd/They'd have been better off with a reelection. Coin flip, draw straws, swords, cage match or a duel. Hey, that would mean one less politician either way... I like the duel idea best.

I vote for the duel as well. I will fully respect and accept the winner. Anything less and it is politics as usual.

Is this nonsense STILL going on?

YES. And if democrats did this, republicans would have them for breakfast. Coleman needs to STOP and admit defeat. This is about republicans keeping a democrat from being seated in order to disrupt Obama's plans. They think if they can keep him out long enough, they have a better chance. Fucking republicans would eat their young if it would help them politically.

I disagree. This should happen more often. About a hundred times more often, over the next 6 years.

Oh great. So the people of Minnesota have less representation thant the rest of the country. They should revolt. If Al Gore had fought like this for the presidency, I wonder what everyone would have been saying. :rolleyes:

Holy shit?

They were calling him Sore Loserman before the first recount was done.

And the NY-20 election today is shaping up to be another. The Republican filed suit to prevent certification.

It may be the Democrats in the Senate have their reservations about whether a professional comedian -- and that's the bulk of his resumé -- would amount to an asset to their party if actually sitting in Congress. They're not finding the time to beat the drums either for Franken to step up or Coleman to sit down.

I think Al Franken is an asshat, but his previous career is irrelevant. We've had former actors, wrestlers, athletes, convicts, and even some lawyers elected to public office.

You apparently haven't read about him. I was rather surprised to read what he has been involved in since his SNL career. I still don't care for his political views per see, but I respect him a lot more than I did before.

My thoughts as well. He was an asshat and a half assed commedian and remains the same as a politician.

That's what must REALLY be pissing Coleman off right now. He got beaten by a hack comedian who was never even funny in his whole life.

What specifically earned your respect?

Initially I thought he was just a comedian from SNL yet after reading his bio I learned that he has been active in a lot of things other than just that. He'd written books, USO service... I incorrectly thought he pretty much disappeared after SNL.

I have some of the Al Franken books... quite clever.

Now they want a do-over in Alaska.

I don't know what to think about that situation. I find it odd, to say the least. It appears that he may be "getting off" because of some technicality. Ugghh, I hate that.

On the other hand, maybe what some of the reports are saying about the FBI agent and her "special relationship" is true - Could it really be that this guy was framed or whatever? I personally don't think so, but....

After 2000, this trend is hilarious in a way I wouldn't have thought possible.

Stevens was in congress for 40 years, and like most (all?) of those long-timers he felt he was entitled to any perks he could get away with. It's very hard to prosecute these clowns because of the power and connections they have. Witnesses are intimidated, and usually covering their own ass, so to build a case prosecutors usually have to nail the witness and offer a plea bargain to get them to testify. That frustration on the part of the prosecutors sometimes makes them over zealous feeling the end justifies the means, and that's not right either.

If the damn voters would do their job we wouldn't have this problem.

It's Alaska. They voted for Palin. What do you expect?

Palin certainly wasn't ready for prime time but for Alaskans she was the lesser evil. She did OK by them for the most part, as they weren't affected by her very much in their day to day lives. Alaskans have daily concerns that make crooked politicians pale by comparison. :apaw::wolf:

Volcanoes, for example?

TGRR,
Reasonable certain Bobby Jindal isn't "Mr Popularity" around Mount Redoubt.

I think I'd be safe in saying, to Alaskans, Mt Redoubt is orders of magnitude more of a concern than Jindal.

Kind of. Jindal wanted to cancel the volcano monitoring that saved lots of lives around Mt Redoubt. He said it was a boondoggle, a day or two before the first warnings went out.

OK, I'd missed that, thanks.

Three little words - "Bedtime for Bonzo".

Al Franken is a cum laude graduate of Harvard with a Bachelor's Degree in Political Science. He's a four-time Emmy winning writer and six time published author, as well as a radio host and television and movie producer. Calling him nothing more than a "professional comedian" is more than a bit disingenuous.

Why? Minnesota also elected a wrestler as governor. :D

I agree. It always sucks when guilty people get off because of prosecutorial misconduct. Just because the charges were dropped, that doesn't mean he's innocent. So a person who's guilty of misconduct gets off... because of misconduct. Brilliant.

Jill, disingenuous is being too kind, that's the way UG rolls. :haha:

As well as a Cooter (from Dukes of Hazzard) and a Gopher (from Love Boat) elected to Congress.

Heh. Well, being a relative noob around here, I thought I'd wait until I know him better before I call him a moron. :D

Fred Grandy (Gopher) served 4 terms as a congressman for Iowa. I saw him once on C-Span in a committee and was not really impressed.

Gopher did a reverse Frankin.

He is now a political talk radio guy on a local show in DC...same station as Rush and Sean.

Whoa...Gopher was also a cum laude Harvard grad with a sense of humor:

Wow - I thought Gandy faded away into the sunset like the Love boat. What an interesting life he has.

Al Franken Lies exposed:

http://michellemalkin.com/2005/09/07...ns-lying-lies/

Oh my god. You guys have people here who actually quote Michelle Malkin as a source of credible information?

BWAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

:: sniff ::

Are you talking about the documents with Franken's signature or the person who put them up for everyone to see. Strawman arguement doesn't change the facts. Franken is a fraud. The article is quite well footnoted and a simple google search will give you much of the same info. Michelle did a good job of putting it all together.

How about this one:

http://www.nysun.com/new-york/franke...nt-pact/19659/

Not that it matters a whole lot, as Coleman is just obstructing now, but Franken has widened his lead as a result of Coleman's lawsuit.

yeh - go do another line ya hippie!
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yea, sad, isn't it? Especially since I know him and consider him a friend. :D

I do hope Jill was kidding. If she thought she'd be taken seriously with that kind of idea, she needs a thorough disabusing.

Disabusing? Is that like...spanking?

It's the opposite of databusing.

Does that require tools of some sort?

Ooo, you guys are such teases! No wonder I like it here. :)

Yes, Urbane Guerrilla, I was completely serious about my inability to take anything spewing from Michelle Malkin seriously. The notion that TheMercenary would hold her up as a credible source of unbiased research is as absurd as if I were to quote Michael Moore* and expect you guys to accept it without bursting into hysterical laughter.



*Sorry Moore fans, but I think he's the douche of the Left, and as big of an embarrassment to our side as people like Malkin and Coulter are to the Right.

I can see why you would not like her. Lots of people don't. But the stuff that was posted was factual and referenced. And yea, I like some of her stuff. I can't say I like much of anything by MMoore, but that is just me.

Its not a matter of liking her or not....mostly she just blows smoke out of here ass....and the wing nuts just love that ass.