Everyone has a godform ... science, logic, reason, God, Cernnunos, Hecate, Shekinah, Allah, Buddha, the Infinite ...

You have to make the definition of "godform" pretty vague to include all of that...

if god is something that we worship, then wolf is right. we all worship something, even if it is subconsciously.
self, money, fame, little green men from outer space.

What? The concept of deity isn't vague enough for you already?

I don't worship anything, even subconsciously. Unless you also make the definition of "worship" pretty vague too.

I'm willing to bet that some of that comes from some of the (a/non)theists believing in a greater validity to an ideology that has a more modern or philosophical outlook.

I'm going to have to disagree on this.

1) What if both noodle and myself are wrong?
2) for myself, I feel I have more at risk because I personally have built my belief structure from many sources and am in an ongoing campain to clarify and correct any innaccuracies or mistakes. I'd say that I have more invested in my beliefs because I've done most of the work as opposed to picking up a prefab paradigm.

Not even facts?

Because you have built your belief structure from many sources doesn't make it any more original. And again the atheist arrogance (however unintentional) - what makes you think that I have done any less thinking or soul searching along my path than you have done on yours?

Your effort to clarify and correct any inaccuracies you perceive in your sources is doomed to fail - not because you're not equally capable as any other human being, but because you are equally fallible. And it's what separates my God from yours - I believe in an infallible God, so my goal is to align myself with one ultimate truth, not be blown around like a leaf in whatever wind happens by. Custom-building "truth" from whatever sources jibe with your current desires and whims is the downfall of atheism, and frankly, most major Christian denominations.

Like I said, you'd have to smudge the definition of "worship" beyond my understanding of the word in order to apply it to my relationship with facts. I respect facts, and find them useful. Is that worship?

Which one(s) don't do it?

Good point. All manmade religious denominations do it to some extent. But religion is man's corporate attempt to define and worship God corporately. On an individual level, our relationship with God is free of religion - we just gather with people who believe similarly, so we can help each other in our faith. It's only when we start deciding to form committees and act in the interest of "the church" and not in God's interest that we fail. And the failures are spectacular, and lots of people get hurt, because we suck at being God.

Thousands if not millions of Catholics are waiting with bated breath to see if the pope is going to live or die. If he dies, they think God won't have a mouthpiece and we'll be without spiritual direction until the next one is appointed. It's the pinnacle of wrong thinking as far as Christianity is concerned - God acts on a personal level, not through some guy in Rome. Who set that up, anyway? T'weren't God.

At the risk of offending sensitive Catholics, I don't consider them to be "followers of Jesus" or God. They do ALOT of stuff that God expressly prohibits, like worshiping idols and other people (Mary and Saints). The only person who is supposed to intercede for you is Jesus. Catholics also have a different set of commandments than everyone else. And the whole Pope thing. What is that about?

Well, now i'm offended. :) Of course, Catholics don't have the patent on doing stuff god expressly prohibits. Everybody does that.

And, i'm not catholic, but was raised catholic and my mom is a devout catholic. If you think they are wrong, what do you have to say about the Jews? Too bad salvation is denied so many, right?

who is salvation denied to? no one.

who doesn't ask for it? lots of people.

:)

Jews are a whole nother story.

I'm currently researching this very subject. If the scholars, historians and other learned people are correct, and Jesus really did exist, and the Jews missed it. There are, however, a growing number of Messianic Jews, Jews who believe in the orthodoxy of Judaism and also that Jesus was the Messiah that the prophecies foretold.