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Sundae 01-13-2014 09:32 AM

Female colleagues of mine, from far further up their various career-ladders have told me that one of their biggest considerations when it came to choosing said path was taking future children into consideration. I mean they were thinking about it even before they went to Uni.

This includes pharmacists and lawyers, and both of these professions need to keep learning and training and staying up to date on recent developments for as long as they are working. Male colleagues in general still have a good chance of being looked after at home. Laundry done for them, meals cooked, house cleaned and still able to go to work when the children are ill. With no need to work part-time they are able to progress further and faster. Amen bring home the bacon, but who shovels the pigshit?

Not me. I get to work part-time even without children. Yay.
Hmmmm. Okay, I'm not a good advert.

Anyway I'm not saying that planning for children is specifically girl-thinking. Not at all. The majority of straight people work on the assumption that they will procreate. I'm just saying that the choice of career involves gender in many ways which do not involve brain development at all.

Undertoad 01-13-2014 09:38 AM

Talking about the probability of a type C brain seems like we are on a similar boat.

I feel like I should add that in comp sci, I have worked for female bosses and I have hired female employees; after the preference is found, we are all equals.

The real terrible inequality in comp sci is AGE. (The worst inequalities in the world are the ones happening to US)

lumberjim 01-13-2014 10:38 AM

Get in the coffin gramps

footfootfoot 01-13-2014 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by DanaC (Post 889209)
Someone has a chapter on interpersonal violence between soldiers, to write :p


I really, really have to stop getting distracted with this stuff

Honestly, I'd be 10x more fascinated to read that than this discussion only because I haven't heard or learned anything new on this topic.

Sign me up for your other work though.

Clodfobble 01-13-2014 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sundae
Anyway I'm not saying that planning for children is specifically girl-thinking. Not at all. The majority of straight people work on the assumption that they will procreate. I'm just saying that the choice of career involves gender in many ways which do not involve brain development at all.

This is THE reason I rejected being a pre-med major when considering my college options. I knew I wanted children, and I wanted them before I finished my residency at age 30.

regular.joe 01-14-2014 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by footfootfoot (Post 889260)
Honestly, I'd be 10x more fascinated to read that than this discussion only because I haven't heard or learned anything new on this topic.

Sign me up for your other work though.

My experience points at more interpersonal violence between soldiers of different nations. Especially different nations with different religious populations.

Sent from an undisclosed location.

DanaC 01-14-2014 12:05 PM

Seems largely to hold true for the 18th/19th century British army.

Given the dynamic of lots of trained, armed men hanging about for long periods of inactivity in camps, there seems surprisingly little serious violence between soldiers of similar rank and service. Obviously, there's a level of day to day violence that doesn't make it into the justice records - dealt with summarily by officers, or self-policed through company structures. But they don't appear to have been any more violent amongst themselves than a comparable civilian population of the day.

Non-comms, though. They're a different story. So far I am getting the distinct impression that NCOs were disproportionately victims of violence.

footfootfoot 01-14-2014 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by regular.joe (Post 889343)
My experience points at more interpersonal violence between soldiers of different nations. Especially different nations with different religious populations.

Sent from an undisclosed location.

cracking me up, Reg.

footfootfoot 01-14-2014 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DanaC (Post 889350)

Non-comms, though. They're a different story. So far I am getting the distinct impression that NCOs were disproportionately victims of violence.

Private: Ah, now we see the violence inherent in the system!
Captain: [shakes Private] Shut up!
Private: Oh! Come and see the violence inherent in the system! Help, help, I'm being repressed!
Captain: Bloody Private!
Private: Ooh, what a giveaway!

regular.joe 01-20-2014 02:31 AM

Dana, I thought you were kidding. Are you really writing a paper on interpersonal violence between soldiers?

Your comments on brain wiring has me thinking. Men and women are different starting at the genetic level. Genetically, hormonally, different. Do you mean that our brain processing is essentially the same? I suppose we all look similar when we process 2+2. The method of neurons processing information does not take into account the delicate play of brain chemistry, hormones, and genetic markers.

Sent from an undisclosed location.

footfootfoot 01-20-2014 11:09 AM

Joe, I think that is a chapter in her PhD thesis. Somewhere Dana goes into detail about the whole thing, but I believe it has to do with the British Army in the 1800s.

Probably, I'll just wait for the movie...

regular.joe 01-20-2014 11:16 AM

That is very interesting. I suppose I should stop baiting her in this forum and let her have a little peace to write her thesis.

footfootfoot 01-20-2014 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by regular.joe (Post 890210)
That is very interesting. I suppose I should stop baiting her in this forum and let her have a little peace to write her thesis.

I see what you did there:eyebrow:

regular.joe 01-20-2014 01:07 PM

Ah come now Three Foot, you have to admit it is the perfect word for the occasion, works on any level. It's a hard feat for us low context Mericans to pull off.

footfootfoot 01-20-2014 01:30 PM

Hard feet? Hardly. I thought it was just your regular genius and I haggised.


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