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monster 05-04-2011 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Jill (Post 730880)
Ah, so your shorthand is ok (ST6), but mine isn't. Getting a clearer picture of you with every post. Keep 'em coming. It's done. I linked to it and you read it. Why shouldn't Congress take a 10 minute vote and pass it?

If it's done it's done and 10 minutes to pass it..meh, you're right, it's nothing. but the whole thing... lots of time on something that isn't as important as other things that time to prepare the thing could have been spent on. I just don't "get" the need for it at all

Fair&Balanced 05-04-2011 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 730886)
Where did I say they would be "compromised on the ground"?

My mistake.

It might reveal something that goes on during these missions and ruining these peoples careers

Where in the Senate resolution would you say that happened?

TheMercenary 05-04-2011 10:55 PM

It makes them feel better. Like they are part of the operation. Like they contributed. They did not. No one believes it but those who voted for it or are too embarrassed to vote no, for fear they are recorded as not supporting the troops. These people could give a shit what Congress thinks.

monster 05-04-2011 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Jill (Post 730883)
::scratches head::

Maybe I shouldn't have come back after all. Why do y'all seem to want to take me on?

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i don't "want to take you on" -I think you're a starring asset to the site, and frankly, I'd've never read the thread if it weren't for you-ask the regulars -do I ever come here -do I know much about American politics?....

Aliantha 05-04-2011 10:57 PM

Yeah, I've got to agree with monster here (although that's probably because we both come from countries with a similar political system).

Over here, the PM would simply stand up in parliament and make a speech about how everything went down and who deserves a pat on the back then sit down again. It'd be recorded in the hansard notes (a record of every word said in parliament) and that'd be it aside from normal military proceedures (whatever they might be).

Big Sarge 05-04-2011 10:58 PM

bmho the personnel involved in this mission don't give a damn about a resolution of thanks. they don't do things for the praise of politicians nor do they give a damn about medals. they do it for the flag and the guy standing beside them

Jill 05-04-2011 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Fair&Balanced (Post 730884)

These kinds of Thanks of Congress resolutions have been a practice since the American Revolution.

And Mercenary was completely clueless when he said it might compromise those guys on the ground.

Exactly. Even if he was a part of ST6 (assuming I'm allowed that shorthand), it's clear he has no freaking clue what a Resolution is or what it's meant to accomplish. His asinine projections that a Resolution would somehow do harm to these guys or prevent them from doing what they do is so absurd it's laughable. And if this kind of moron could get elevated to that level, I'm suddenly more terrified of them than I ever was of OBL.
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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 730885)

They had no intention of honoring said unit! It was a political ploy! The operation was being manipulated by a bunch of politicians for other means!

Now I'm going to call you a fucking idiot. How dare you claim that our PRESIDENT manipulated a team of Navy SEALS for political purposes. You filthy piece of shit, you disgust me.

TheMercenary 05-04-2011 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Fair&Balanced (Post 730890)

And that is the truth. It draws attention to the unit, the missions, and the people. And they do not want or need that. Now every swinging dick independent reporter out to get a stringer on the NYT front page will be out head hunting these people. What should have happened is for the government to state what happened in the mission, never mentioned any details about anything, never told anyone what they did with the body, never told anyone they took pictures, and never told anyone what units were involved. The public has no right or need to know. The deed was done and if people don't believe them, tough shit.

Fair&Balanced 05-04-2011 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Sarge (Post 730895)
bmho the personnel involved in this mission don't give a damn about a resolution of thanks. they don't do things for the praise of politicians nor do they give a damn about medals. they do it for the flag and the guy standing beside them

Its for the historical record as it has always been for 200+ years and does not ruin any careers.

TheMercenary 05-04-2011 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Jill (Post 730896)
Now I'm going to call you a fucking idiot. How dare you claim that our PRESIDENT manipulated a team of Navy SEALS for political purposes. You filthy piece of shit, you disgust me.

Fuck off. He is using it for re-election. Everyone can see it.

It is not the event, it is the after press he is exploiting.

TheMercenary 05-04-2011 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Fair&Balanced (Post 730898)
Its for the historical record as it has always been for 200+ years and does not ruin any careers.

It draws un-needed and un-wanted attention.

Jill 05-04-2011 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by monster (Post 730892)

i don't "want to take you on" -I think you're a starring asset to the site, and frankly, I'd've never read the thread if it weren't for you-ask the regulars -do I ever come here -do I know much about American politics?....

Thanks. And sorry for misinterpreting your intentions. I've had a longass go-around with Merc today, so perhaps I'm a little testy. Sorry about that.
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Originally Posted by Big Sarge (Post 730895)

bmho the personnel involved in this mission don't give a damn about a resolution of thanks. they don't do things for the praise of politicians nor do they give a damn about medals. they do it for the flag and the guy standing beside them

We all know they don't do it for the recognition.

That doesn't mean they don't deserve the recognition.

The Senate passed it 97-0.

What crawled up the House's ass that they won't bother to do the same?

monster 05-04-2011 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Fair&Balanced (Post 730898)
Its for the historical record as it has always been for 200+ years and does not ruin any careers.

I sorta feel like it's already there in the history books.....why am i wrong?

monster 05-04-2011 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Jill (Post 730901)
Thanks. And sorry for misinterpreting your intentions. I've had a longass go-around with Merc today, so perhaps I'm a little testy. Sorry about that. We all know they don't do it for the recognition.

Gotta say, this is the closest Merc and I have ever been, and it don't smell so good.... :lol:

Fair&Balanced 05-04-2011 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by monster (Post 730902)
I sorta feel like it's already there in the history books.....why am i wrong?

The event will be in the history books.

The "Thanks of Congress" is a 200+ year protocol; the only one that serves as an official acknowledgement by the nation's highest body, with no harms to future missions or anyone reputation.


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