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Why do you oppose the Second Amendment and defend the liberal Demoncrats who oppose it?

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Originally Posted by Fair&Balanced (Post 724463)

Show me one of your links that had factual information on voting records and we can discuss it.

Show me one with false information on voting records and defend it.

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Originally Posted by BigV (Post 723780)

"Liberals hate the second amendment" is a sweeping generalization.

Sweeping generalizations are useless as a means of understanding.

Persisting in the use of sweeping generalizations is to avoid attempting to understand.

I can not, and will not attempt to reach understanding with anyone who would avoid that shared effort.

As long as you believe I hate the second amendment, we have nothing to talk about. I will leave you in peace and ignorance.

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Originally Posted by Pico and ME (Post 723972)

Big V --->:thumb:

Merc ---> :brikwall:

Me three.

So you can't answer my questions or read the links. I understand. Show me where your the factual information on voting records disputes the liberal Demoncratic support is not overwhelmingly not for gun control and we can discuss it.

Why the hell would Obama try to have a summit about immigration and not invite the Gov's from the border states?

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefi...ration-meeting

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"I can make a firm pledge. Under my plan, no family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increase. Not your income tax, not your payroll tax, not your capital gains taxes, not any of your taxes." - President Obama, Sept. 12, 2008.

Beginning in January of 2012, ObamaCare imposes a 3.8% Medicare tax on unearned income, including the sale of single family homes, townhouses, co-ops, condominiums, and even rental income. This tax covers all income levels.
In reality, this is sadly similar to a "good news / bad news" joke.

The bad news is that the President is going to make you pay capital gains on any profit you make selling your home.

The good news is that during Obama's watch, the value of your house has fallen significantly.

In fairness, we hasten to add that this is not all his fault. The Bush Administration and Republicans and Democrats alike are also to blame.

Can't agree with it all but there are some really good points here....

http://www.thedemocrat.com/site/news...&PAG=461&rfi=9

What the above column does not mention is that the tax only applies to higher income taxpayers.

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The UIMCT broadens the Medicare tax base for higher-income taxpayers by imposing a 3.8% surtax on the lesser of: (1) "net investment income"; or (2) the excess of adjusted gross income [AGI], increased by any foreign earned income otherwise excluded from AGI, over the taxpayer's threshold amount. For single and head-of-household taxpayers the threshold amount is $200,000. For married couples filing a joint return, and surviving spouses, the threshold amount is $250,000. For a married person filing a separate return the threshold amount is $125,000.

http://research.lawyers.com/blogs/ar...ed-Income.html

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From the text of the law on the Unearned Income Medicare Contribution:

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THRESHOLD AMOUNT.—For purposes of this chapter, the
term ‘threshold amount’ means—
‘‘(1) in the case of a taxpayer making a joint return under section 6013 or a surviving spouse (as defined in section 2(a)), $250,000, ‘‘(2) in the case of a married taxpayer (as defined in section 7703) filing a separate return, 1⁄2 of the dollar amount determined under paragraph (1), and ‘‘(3) in any other case, $200,000.

http://www.healthcare.gov/center/aut...ntribution.pdf

Dont you think the column is misleading, or more to the point, factually incorrect, by saying that it "covers all income levels" (it does not) and not mentioning the income threshold?

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Originally Posted by Fair&Balanced (Post 725656)

Dont you think the column is misleading, or more to the point, factually incorrect, by saying that it "covers all income levels" (it does not) and not mentioning the income threshold?

No.

:lol:

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President Obama declared today's 41st annual Earth Day proof of America's ecological and conservation spirit—then completed a three-day campaign-style trip logging 10,666 miles on Air Force One, eating up some 53,300 gallons at a cost of about $180,000. And that doesn't include the fuel consumption of his helicopter, limo, or the 29 other vehicles that travel with that car.

http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/was...00-gallon-trip

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 726004)

No.

Thanks for the laugh.

That's twice this week! (still laughing at the claim the Brady bill was an ugly gun ban).

:lol2:

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Originally Posted by Fair&Balanced (Post 726240)

(still laughing at the claim the Brady bill was an ugly gun ban).

Laugh all you want. Among gun owners that is what the bill has been known by since it's inception. It was nothing more than a ban on the way guns looked, among other things.

Nothing more than... x ... among other things.

Does not compute.

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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey (Post 726838)

Nothing more than... x ... among other things.

Does not compute.

Perhaps he is referring to barrel length, muzzle velocity, penis envy and conserative manhood.

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Originally Posted by Fair&Balanced (Post 726884)

Perhaps he is referring to barrel length, muzzle velocity, penis envy and conserative manhood.

No that right there is funny.... :3eye: :lol2:

I wonder if Obamy will let the Fed just print some more money with a key stroke to prop up the economy? Anyone?