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Spexxvet 11-11-2009 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 607532)
I heard that about Obama and the White House, they pretty much ignored the whole race there.

You criticize if he ignores the whole race, and you criticize for playing the race card. Make up your mind, would ya. :rolleyes:

TheMercenary 11-11-2009 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet (Post 607537)
You criticize if he ignores the whole race, and you criticize for playing the race card. Make up your mind, would ya. :rolleyes:

Why? He should be criticized for both.

classicman 11-11-2009 12:32 PM

The D's lost the majority of the most recent elections because an overwhelming majority of those who voted in the presidential election do/did not vote in the off elections. This election had virtually nothing to do with Obama. IMO. (See sig line 3)

Redux 11-11-2009 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by classicman (Post 607590)
The D's lost the majority of the most recent elections because an overwhelming majority of those who voted in the presidential election do/did not vote in the off elections. This election had virtually nothing to do with Obama. IMO. (See sig line 3)

The Ds actually split the most recent elections...winning two open House seats (a swing district in CA and a red district in NY) and losing two governorships.

But I agree.

xoxoxoBruce 11-11-2009 01:35 PM

Corzine lost in NJ, because he did a piss poor job as an administrator at a time when the economy imploded. He might have skated with his lousy performance if that hadn't happened, but I doubt it

Two other things against him;
1- He's the former fatcat of Goldman Sachs, and that type isn't to popular with voters right now.

2- His campaign's TV adds making fun of Christie being fat, pissed off a LOT of people.

classicman 11-11-2009 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Redux (Post 607602)
The Ds actually split the most recent elections...

Thats one way to look at it. I thought there were a lot more R's who won than D's.

Redux 11-11-2009 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by classicman (Post 607669)
Thats one way to look at it. I thought there were a lot more R's who won than D's.

There were only four races of any "national" interest.

There are no House or Senate elections in odd years unless there are open seats - in this case two open House seats. The Democrats won both, one in a district that had elected Republicans for 100+ consecutive years.

And NJ and VA were the only states with state-wide, gubernatorial elections. The Republicans won both.

Virginia, btw, is the only state where the governor is limited to one term, so there is never an incumbent running. The Republican was the next best thing to an incumbent. He was the sitting AG, who was elected state-wide in the previous election.

classicman 11-11-2009 09:03 PM

There were many other races besides those 4. Lieutenants, mayoral and so on. I cannot find the site I looked at where it showed who won what, but IIRC there were a lot more R's who won than D's - oh and I's made a good showing as well.

Redux 11-11-2009 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by classicman (Post 607817)
There were many other races besides those 4. Lieutenants, mayoral and so on.

Mayoral and other municipal elections are overwhelmingly non-partisan, including most big cities...and elections are overwhelming decided on local, not national, issues.

But, yes, you can count one for Rs - Bloomberg won again in NYC.

And we know how much conservative Rs wanna "be like Mike" ;)

classicman 11-12-2009 07:42 AM

weak .

Redux 11-12-2009 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by classicman (Post 607902)
weak .

I agree.

It is definitely weak to suggest that partisan politics is a factor in most local elections. :thumb:

classicman 11-12-2009 10:33 AM

:eyebrow:

TheMercenary 11-12-2009 01:39 PM

So it turns out that the Dem who won in upstate NY is actually a blue dog.

glatt 11-12-2009 01:44 PM

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TheMercenary 11-12-2009 01:56 PM

arf. yea that's her. :)


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