It's kind of poetic, less than majestic and too big to put on a bumper sticker.

I like it!

It's easy to fit 1/50 of a cent on a bumper sticker.

It's easy to fit 1/50 of a cent on a bumper sticker.
 

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

What was stooopit was me calling anybody on a math error. I have no skills.

“'Peace' is not a concept limited to humanity.”


Of course it is, insofar as we know: as concept (something rooted in *language) 'peace' is uniquely human.

Certainly whales and orangutans may have something analogous to the concept, but this is only a guess.

We, however, 'know' humans truck in peace...this whole thread is an example of it.


*Language is one of the tools the human individual uses in apprehending the world. As signifier, the individual names the world, in some fashion making the world his own by giving it, the world, significance. This is true not only for the objective world, but also the esoteric one, that is, ideas and concepts (fictions) having no independent realness.

Peace, as construct, idea, fiction, is one such 'named' and signified thing.

My dog may not have a "construct, idea, fiction, is one such 'named' and signified thing" for 'love', but she sure as hell understands it.
:rolleyes:

Actually, as 'we' use and understand love, no, your dog doesn't.

If you want to generalize love to the point where it encompasses familiarity coupled with good feeling coupled with physical pleasure, then okay.

But, as we -- you and me -- think on love, such a generalized definition falls short of what we feel when we love.

Why?

Because when I love, when you love, we love the person for who she is. We understand her not only for the 'object' she is or the concreteness she provides, but also for the idiosyncratic 'subject' she is.

Your dog 'loves' you for 'what' you are. It can never know 'you', only what you serve as the source of.

The dog has no sense of self. No 'I'ness dominates it. Love, as complete, is the transaction between a 'you and me', not 'me and it'.

Now: you may love your dog, but your dog does not, cannot, love you in the same way. This makes for a one-way street... ;)

You must live a very lonely existance, Henry.

Enjoy your 7' x 3' x 2' world.

You must live a very lonely existance, Henry.
 

I was thinkin' the same of you, pie.

When a body anthropomorphizes an animal, and attributes to it uniquely human qualities, my view is such a person suffers from a lack of human contact.

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"Enjoy your 7' x 3' x 2' world."

We -- you and me -- live in the same world. We, however, have vastly different perspectives. I prefer to love and be loved by those who I can talk to.

You believe a wet nose pressed to yours 'means' something.

*shrug*

As you like...as you will... ;)

Yep, I'm pretty sure your dog doesn't love you! :lol2:

A truly evil person would link to this post at a number of dog and cat forums. I am a nice guy, however, so I just thought about it.

Oh, and both my dog and I disagree with you. :D

There have been many examples of animals willing to die for their "owners" What would you call that, if not love, Henry?

Yep, I'm pretty sure your dog doesn't love you!
 

I don't need a dog: I have family and friends... ;)

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"A truly evil person would link to this post at a number of dog and cat forums."


Hey: call in as many as you like, Beastmaster!

A thousand voices promoting insanity are still insane.

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"Oh, and both my dog and I disagree with you."


I'm sure 'you' do, but did you ask the dog? ;)

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I wrote: 'I prefer to love and be loved by those who I can talk to.'

That should read, 'I prefer to love and be loved by those who I can talk with.'

and

I wrote: 'You believe a wet nose pressed to yours 'means' something.'

That should read: 'You believe a wet, dog, nose pressed to yours is equivalent to a human lover's or toddler's.'

Imprecision: the bane of lucid communication.

"There have been many examples of animals willing to die for their "owners" What would you call that, if not love, Henry?"


Can you cite sources for this claim?

If you can: I'd love to read about these animals.

As of now: we have an unsupported claim which I chalk up to urban myth and misinterpretation of circumstance.

But: I could be wrong. Before I admit that I need the evidence.