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sugarpop 06-16-2009 09:48 PM

For cars, the milage is 22, not 18, according to this one website.

http://www.cashforclunkersfacts.com/

Summary of Cash for Clunkers Voucher Qualifications
Min. Fuel Economy for New Vehicle - Passenger Car 22 mpg
Mileage improvement of at least 4 mpg - $3,500 Voucher
Mileage improvement of at least 10 mpg - $4,500 Voucher

Light-Duty Truck ** 18 mpg *
Mileage improvement of at least 2 mpg - $3,500 Voucher
Mileage improvement of at least 5 mpg - $4,500 Voucher

Large Light-Duty Trucks *** 15 mpg *
Mileage improvement of at least 1 mpg or trade-in of a work truck - $3,500 Voucher
Mileage improvement of at least 2 mpg - $4,500 Voucher


Mileage improvement of only 1 or 2 miles per gallon for trucks? Are you freaking kidding me? grrrrrr that pisses me off! Why the fuck do TRUCKS always get off easy! They pollute the most and get the WORST mileage!

Clodfobble 06-16-2009 10:27 PM

Such a long time off, and yet all that vim and vigor didn't simmer down one bit, huh?

Out of curiosity, what things don't make you "soooooOOOOoooo mad," sugar?

sugarpop 06-16-2009 10:57 PM

Don't you think if they are going to pass legislation to give people money to trade in their cars or trucks, it should be for more than 1 or 2 mpg, especially on a vehicle that already gets crappy gas mileage? Do you really want to the government to be subsidizing gas gussling vehicles? Because I certainly don't.

I am actually a lot happier now than I was before. Probably because I haven't been spending a lot of time online debating politics or watching the news. :D

classicman 06-16-2009 11:04 PM

Personally, I'd rather they spent that money reducing the incredible debt we have and reducing our monetary dependence on China. That or stop spending money we don't have. Theres a novel idea.

sugarpop 06-16-2009 11:09 PM

I agree. The automobile industry has gotten enough money. They didn't need this as well. Although, I imagine some people could use it to help them get a new car. I just wish, if they were going to do this, they would have done it a lot smarter.

classicman 06-16-2009 11:10 PM

or... STOP THE FUCKIN SPENDING!

sugarpop 06-16-2009 11:15 PM

yea. They could do that as well.

Personally, I thought it was stupid and sneaky to put that in the last supplemental for war spending. It should have been somewhere else.

ZenGum 06-16-2009 11:48 PM

NEWSFLASH

Sugarpop and Classicman have agreed on something!

In other news, lions have been seen in compromising positions with lambs, and a pig has disappeared off radar somewhere over the North Pacific.

classicman 06-16-2009 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZenGum (Post 574949)
NEWSFLASH

Sugarpop and Classicman have agreed on something!

Will wonders ever cease?

ZenGum 06-16-2009 11:53 PM

... and now over to Bealzebub, with the weather report, and it seems we're expecting snow flurries and subzero temperatures as far down as the fifth circle ...

classicman 06-17-2009 12:35 AM

of hell!

slang 06-17-2009 05:26 AM

After all these years of abusing my automobile's appearance in hopes of reducing it's value, it seems that my car is now worth at least $3500. How depressing.

All the past years of old fast food wrappers in the cavity where the death seat used to be, the discapline of not washing it for years on end, using the hood as a work table complete with corresponding scratches and chemical spills have been a wasted effort.

How else might I devalue my POS so as to convince the world at large that I don't have 2 nickels to rub together and that my car is not worth stealing or vandalizing?

Years of consistent (non) effort....wasted. :(

ZenGum 06-17-2009 07:56 AM

LOL ... but easy. Spend heaps converting it to a hybrid drive system. Then you can't get the trade in cause you wont be improving your economy.
Spend, man, spend, spend, spend. That's what'll fix this : manic grin :

slang 06-17-2009 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZenGum (Post 575001)
.......converting it to a hybrid drive system.

Would a small team of amish horses change it's catagory to "hybrid"? :biggrin:

Oh yeah. That clunky horse hitch on the front. Yeah, that would scream "don't bother stealing this car (buggy)"

TheMercenary 06-17-2009 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by classicman (Post 574932)
or... STOP THE FUCKIN SPENDING!

They can't. The spigot is open for the next 4 years. There is a complete loss of self control.


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