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Redux 03-28-2009 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by TGRR (Post 550398)
It's about time the damn dems figured it out. I thought those morons would NEVER catch on.

Now I'm gonna put some popcorn on and watch the GOP howl on CSPAN.
Nothing wrong with trying for a little consensus building and bi-partisanship as a first step.

But when the Repubs take consensus building and bi-partisanship to mean they should have an equal voice rather than just a seat at the table and the opportunity to have their voice heard and then walk away in a huff when they dont get everything they want....then its time to play hard ball.

Undertoad 03-28-2009 11:37 AM
Let them filibuster. I don't think the public will find it very impressive behavior.

xoxoxoBruce 03-28-2009 01:15 PM
Fox News will play them as heroes and their base will cheer wildly. :rolleyes:

Undertoad 03-28-2009 01:43 PM
Well they'll do that regardless.

It's interesting, because the GOP is still looking for some way to insist that they have principles that the voters can believe in. It'll be important for them to take it all the way on some issue in the next two years, and then give in before appearing to be simply naysayers.

Maybe that's why the Ds put health care into the budget. Let them filibuster for two weeks, then say, OK, we'll take health care out and make that a separate bill, now either allow the vote or use reconciliation to get the rest of the budget passed. Then when health care is separate, if they filibuster again they'll look bad.

xoxoxoBruce 03-28-2009 01:46 PM
Sounds like a good plan. :thumb:

sugarpop 03-28-2009 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 550099)
So you don't agree with Sen. Lincoln and you support the Democrats abuse of it in this care to pass legislation that "is likely to influence nearly every feature of the U.S. economy"?
How is it abuse when republicans are the ones who've used it the most? My god, buncha babies, whine when the other side wants to use the same tactics they themselves used. Not to mention, the way fillibusters are used today is not how they were meant to be used. If one side or the other wants to fillibuster, they should have to stand up and make endless speeches, not just go straight to a vote.

sugarpop 03-28-2009 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by TGRR (Post 550398)
It's about time the damn dems figured it out. I thought those morons would NEVER catch on.

Now I'm gonna put some popcorn on and watch the GOP howl on CSPAN.
hear hear. I'm SO glad they are doing it this way.

heh. btw did you see the budget the republicans put out? With no numbers in it? bwaaahahahahahahahahaaaa A budget with no numbers!!! :sweat:

Happy Monkey 03-28-2009 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 550356)
Because you're lying about the process not being transparent. You may not like it but it is transparent. Everybody and their fucking brother knows what is going on, and you can't get more transparent than that.
Merc's got his own definition of "transparent" that I'm pretty sure he's not going to let any of us know.

xoxoxoBruce 03-28-2009 07:26 PM
Oh, I'm sure most of us have figured it out already. He's replaced goddammit, sonuvabitch, and all other expletives at unwelcome news with, "where's the transparency".

TheMercenary 03-29-2009 04:18 AM
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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 550505)
Oh, I'm sure most of us have figured it out already. He's replaced goddammit, sonuvabitch, and all other expletives at unwelcome news with, "where's the transparency".
Whatever you say there Boss. You are the mind reader around here, not me.

Happy Monkey 03-29-2009 09:44 AM
Q.E.D.

TheMercenary 03-29-2009 09:46 AM
Q.E.F.

TGRR 04-02-2009 10:46 PM
Check out HR1444, kiddies! Wheeeeeeeeee!

ZenGum 04-03-2009 12:26 AM
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Originally Posted by sugarpop (Post 550488)
hear hear. I'm SO glad they are doing it this way.

heh. btw did you see the budget the republicans put out? With no numbers in it? bwaaahahahahahahahahaaaa A budget with no numbers!!! :sweat:
Depends ... is infinity a number?

Shawnee123 04-03-2009 09:34 AM
A budget with no numbers? Is that anything like Mendelssohn's Song Without Words?


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