The Cellar
Page 5 of 6 1234 5 6
Show 60 post(s) from this thread on one page

The Cellar (http://cellar.org/index.php)
-   Home Base (http://cellar.org/forumdisplay.php?f=2)
-   -   societal advances smackdown (0-1750 AD vs 1751 AD- present) (http://cellar.org/showthread.php?t=19799)

DanaC 03-18-2009 03:35 AM
The tech tree was always my favourite bit of Civ. I used to love that.

Even though it involved lots of disk swapping on the Amiga...

My ex was very impressed with Civ 4. Hey UT, did you ever try that add on for civ 4?

Undertoad 03-18-2009 09:54 AM
One of them: I play a lot of Civ 4:Colonization now (it's just natural for us merkins). I have yet to beat the King's armies but it's fun anyway.

piercehawkeye45 03-18-2009 12:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 545665)
Bullshit, they were just the rudimentary beginnings of all those sciences, stuff we teach grade school kids. They were far from developing the sciences we have even though they named them. Their biggest shortcoming is they only shared their knowledge with a few of their fellow noble class students, that's why when the libraries were lost the knowledge was lost, except the stuff people were using.
The base of the knowledge might have been rudimentary but some of the applications were extremely complex. Most graders can understand the basic concept of Force = Mass * Acceleration but no third grader can understand some of the very complex applications of it.

Undertoad 03-18-2009 12:56 PM
The ones who have been paddled can understand it.

xoxoxoBruce 03-19-2009 03:31 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sugarpop (Post 546108)
I don't know, those things sound an awful lot like chemistry to me.
I believe you, but they sound like the rudimentary foundations of chemistry as a science, which was much later to become a useful tool of mankind, to me.

xoxoxoBruce 03-19-2009 03:33 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45 (Post 546550)
The base of the knowledge might have been rudimentary but some of the applications were extremely complex. Most graders can understand the basic concept of Force = Mass * Acceleration but no third grader can understand some of the very complex applications of it.
Third grader? Where did you come up with third grader? I spit on your third grader's soul. :p

sugarpop 03-19-2009 01:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 546797)
I believe you, but they sound like the rudimentary foundations of chemistry as a science, which was much later to become a useful tool of mankind, to me.
OK, I'll give you the chemistry, but not the other things I mentioned. there. You won. :p

dar512 03-19-2009 02:42 PM
Chemistry (and all the other sciences for that matter) could never have been developed without the Arabic number system. Can you imagine doing logarithms in Roman numerals?

Other developments may be more spectacular, but the Arabic system and the invention of the zero are the most fundamental.

glatt 03-19-2009 03:02 PM
Without agriculture, none of it could have been done, because all those mathematicians and scientists would be spending all day rolling logs over looking for grubs to eat.

lumberjim 03-19-2009 06:14 PM
I think it is safe to assume that the advances made lately would not have occurred had we not mastered the underlying skill or science.

If you look at it like.....the changes or improvements that have impacted our daily lives, quality of life, or lifespans.....I think I'm putting my chips on the post 1750 side of the table.

the biggest one thing I think might be in the communications area. I think bruce referred to the loss of skills or science due to non dissemination of the information.

piercehawkeye45 03-19-2009 09:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce (Post 546798)
Third grader? Where did you come up with third grader? I spit on your third grader's soul. :p
Haven't we all...

xoxoxoBruce 03-20-2009 01:15 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sugarpop (Post 546926)
OK, I'll give you the chemistry, but not the other things I mentioned. there. You won. :p
Yeah, I know your pissed we have kids graduating from High School not knowing the strategic art of war that was developed by Sun Tzu. Maybe we could make them go to summer school at West Point, between their junior and senior year, for that. :haha:

NoBoxes 03-20-2009 04:43 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by lumberjim (Post 547019)
... If you look at it like.....the changes or improvements that have impacted our daily lives, quality of life, or lifespans.....I think I'm putting my chips on the post 1750 side of the table.

the biggest one thing I think might be in the communications area. I think bruce referred to the loss of skills or science due to non dissemination of the information.
Exactly, people have even been known to sing about the concept:

[Superstar]
(Voice of Judas)
Every time I look at you I don't understand
Why you let the things you did get so out of your hand
You'd have managed better if you'd had it planned
Why'd you choose such a backward time and such a strange land?
If you'd come today you would have reached a whole nation
Israel in 4 BC had no mass communication
Don't you get me wrong - I only wanna know

where are the fnords 03-21-2009 02:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by classicman (Post 546300)
Whats an Ancient Alien? :rolleyes:
this is the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_astronauts theory

Sundae 03-21-2009 02:18 PM
Ahhhh, NB - Dads used to play that every Easter. Murray Head has the voice of a tripped out angel in a dream. Thanks for the reminder.


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:51 AM.
Page 5 of 6 1234 5 6
Show 60 post(s) from this thread on one page

Powered by: vBulletin Version 3.8.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.