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Aliantha 03-09-2009 08:51 PM

Of course you disagree UG. lol

eta: you really crack me up. lol

Urbane Guerrilla 03-09-2009 08:58 PM

Well, inasmuch as Sugarpop has yet to express a view that didn't come out of the American academic left, she's... well, a pure and unmistakeable example. I think that's very ignorant, and that some worldly experience would do her thinking a world of good.

Aliantha 03-09-2009 08:59 PM

Oh she's going to get very excited about that last post of yours UG. ;)

I can't wait to see how she responds. lol

sugarpop 03-11-2009 10:54 AM

Wow. Seeing as how I was raised in GEORGIA, such a stranglehold of the liberal left (NOT), and am mostly self-taught, that is really funny UG. I overcame my upbringing in spite of myself.

And what exactly do you mean by "worldy experience?" Do you mean one actually has to go other countries in order to understand them? Do you think people can't learn from other people? I may not have travelled extensively around the world, but I have travelled, and I have lived in some pretty diverse places.

sugarpop 03-11-2009 10:55 AM

And I would just add, human nature is human nature, no matter what culture you come from.

Kaliayev 03-11-2009 12:33 PM

lail, "leftist academics". Do you mean people like James Burnham and Max Schachtman?

classicman 03-11-2009 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla (Post 543422)
Well, inasmuch as my opinion has yet to express a view that didn't come out of the American academic far right, I'm... well, a pure and unmistakable(sic) example.


Does that shoe fit as well?

Ibby 02-17-2012 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 503184)
OK now having said that. This thread is for examples of otherwise ordinary people finding reason to believe that there is a secret plan by which Obama is going to destroy the USA.

There were many similar cases of Bush Derangement Syndrome and, before that, Clinton Derangement Syndrome. CDS went so far as to carry rumors that Clinton ran a cocaine operation, and that he had many people killed.

When Classicman and I are on the same side of an argument (ANY argument!) - given that I would describe him as a staunch conservative and myself on the far-left - really really shows the degree to which the far anti-Obama fringe has lost all contact with existing legal, legislative, constitutional, and logical perspective.

[DISCLAIMER: I intend this post to be a (fairly) good-natured ribbing of the fact that I consider Merc's positions expressed in a few threads lately to be far outside the mainstream and to unfairly regard certain things as okay and certain things not okay based, I believe, solely on the fact that they disagree so strongly with Obama on a level that goes deeper than issue-by-issue debate.]

classicman 02-17-2012 12:51 AM

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Classicman a staunch conservative
Ha! Thanks, that made me smile.
My "staunch conservative" friends think I'm a liberal.

Ibby 02-17-2012 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by classicman (Post 796048)
Ha! Thanks, that made me smile.
My "staunch conservative" friends think I'm a liberal.

It's a spectrum, and a very very relative one. I live in fucking BURLINGTON, VERMONT - possibly one of the most liberal small cities in America. To me, you seem to tend to be on the staunchly - but not usually absurdly - conservative side of most issues. I probably have a different idea of "moderate" than a lot of people - I consider Obama to be VERY moderate if not almost conservative (given that most of his policy positions, and especially his compromises, are positions that were held predominately by REPUBLICANS as conservative alternatives to liberal positions less than fifteen years ago, and the rest of the country has at least on social issues moved LEFT), while my impression is that you consider him to be fairly liberal, and generally certainly more liberal than yourself. I apologise if that's a misinterpretation or mischaracterization, but while I'm sure there are people that consider you to be to their left or even far left, from where I sit you look pretty staunchly conservative, but tend to take defensible (and therefore sometimes moderate) positions.

tl;dr: I feel like I disagree with you frequently but can usually respect your position, and so I would call you a staunch conservative but not a loony right-wing nutjob ;)

Sundae 02-17-2012 05:52 AM

And I live in England and consider our current Government conservative (as well as being Conservative) and wish I loved in the Netherlands :)

BigV 02-17-2012 07:59 PM

What happens in the nether regions, stays in the nether regions.

ZenGum 02-18-2012 03:28 AM

Except for certain antibiotic resistant strains.

Sundae 02-18-2012 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Sundae (Post 796065)
And I live in England and consider our current Government conservative (as well as being Conservative) and wish I loved in the Netherlands :)

Of course I meant to type lived.
Freud would be pleased. If he wasn't dead.

richlevy 02-18-2012 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Sundae (Post 796244)
Of course I meant to type lived.
Freud would be pleased. If he wasn't dead.

So what you're really saying is that you want to live in a country with a lot of dykes....er...dikes.:cool:

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/dyke

Quote:

Definition of DYKE

chiefly British variant of dike


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