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lookout123 07-18-2008 02:23 PM

Radar, you've got me all wrong. I'm the guy who'd rather shoot the homeless than feed them.;) But in all honesty, well played. well played.

smoothmoniker 07-18-2008 02:37 PM

Girls, girls ... you're both pretty. Now kiss and make up. With tongue.

Radar 07-18-2008 02:48 PM

:mg: :eek: :smack: :hugnkiss: :shocking: :shock: :vomit:

Lookout knows I don't take it personally. :)

It's all fun until someone loses an eye.

Aliantha 07-18-2008 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Radar (Post 469888)
Socialism is not "society". I buy my own books, I hire my own lawyers, I pay for my own education, etc. Why should I also be forced to pay for someone else's?

If you don't like me keeping what I earn than go into that public toilet and flush your head down the toilet because it's more full of shit than your ass. Being against government funded schools is not the same as being against education. Being against government funded retirement is not the same as being against the elderly. Being against government funded healthcare does not mean you're against the poor getting healthcare. In fact the exact opposite is true. Those who rely on government programs get LESS help than they would otherwise privately and through non-profit charities. Only an ignorant cunt would claim otherwise.

Being against public funding in any way means you shouldn't be driving on the publicly funded roads.

You shouldn't be using publicly funded facilities such as rest rooms in parks.

Surely you get that? Surely you realize that's what your taxes pay for, aside from the other things like health and education.

Only a stupid cunt doesn't get that. Although, I suppose people who still use public roads while saying they shouldn't have to pay taxes must be stupid.

Aliantha 07-18-2008 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Radar (Post 470061)

When I ran for Congress

Were you a winner or a loser then too?

Radar 07-18-2008 08:56 PM

Back then, as now, I was a more intelligent, and better person than you and my campaign was very successful. It's cute when someone who has lost every argument with me has the temerity to call me a loser.

In America, we have a little thing called the Constitution and our constitution was created to restrict the powers of our government. It grants government certain powers and those include ROADS. I have no problem paying for services that I use. American taxes are paid for with gasoline taxes. I think a better way to do it would be to make the roads private and to pay tolls. And we should allow any private person to create toll roads if they buy the land and build them.

As far as parks, public restrooms, etc., I'd be for having privately owned parks run by nature conservancies. I'd pay a fee to use the park as long as it had clean restrooms that don't stink...which very few parks in America have.

Undertoad 07-18-2008 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Radar (Post 470184)
It grants government certain powers and those include ROADS.

Post roads?

morethanpretty 07-18-2008 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by smoothmoniker (Post 470073)
I disagree. I have to try to teach them once they've emerged from 12 years of public education. The metaphor stands.

I'm very proud of my education (public though it may be), at this age, if there is a flaw it is my own failing.

On that note...
My history professor (hist 1301 or US Hist 1) was listing some Catholic beliefs, "They don't believe in using contraception because sex is for the purpose of..." Guy in back of room, "What's contraception?"

I was trying so hard not to laugh out loud I didn't here the professor's response, kinda wish I did.

Urbane Guerrilla 07-19-2008 01:12 AM

[insert shovel, w/2 cents]I just reckon it's why California needs me. We need at least one person who pays attention to foreign policy to counterbalance radar's view that foreign policy shouldn't exist -- constitutionally.

Sundae 07-19-2008 05:40 AM

I think it's cute when someone bases their ethics and morality on an old piece of paper, written by people who lived in a very different world. Whether it's the Bible, the Koran or the Constitution.

Radar 07-19-2008 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Sundae Girl (Post 470231)
I think it's cute when someone bases their ethics and morality on an old piece of paper, written by people who lived in a very different world. Whether it's the Bible, the Koran or the Constitution.

I guess it's a good thing my ethics, morality, and rights don't come from any religious doctrine or old pieces of paper. I do respect the foundation of our government (the U.S. Constitution) and demand that our government abide by the limitations on its powers by that "old piece of paper" whose words are as fresh, carefully crafted, and meaningful today as they were the day they were written.

Radar 07-19-2008 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla (Post 470220)
[insert shovel, w/2 cents]I just reckon it's why California needs me. We need at least one person who pays attention to foreign policy to counterbalance radar's view that foreign policy shouldn't exist -- constitutionally.

I'll thank you not to make baseless assertions or false claims about my position. I think America should have a foreign policy. I think we should trade freely and equitably with all nations and should never use our military to be involved in the disputes of other nations, to make enemies globally, or to otherwise stick our noses where it doesn't belong....like Iraq.

California needs you like Lincoln needed another hole in the head. America needs a workable and intelligent foreign policy like mine in the same way humans need oxygen to survive.

Clodfobble 07-19-2008 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Radar
California needs you like Lincoln needed another hole in the head.

Libertarians are supposed to be extremely anti-Lincoln. I would think you'd be all for another hole in his head.

xoxoxoBruce 07-19-2008 01:41 PM

Quote:

Here are the Top 5 cities which ranked highest in auto theft last year:

• Modesto, CA.
• Las Vegas, NV.
• San Diego/Carlsbad/San Marcos, CA.
• Stockton, CA.
• San Francisco/Oakland/Fremont, CA.

Highlighting mine.

Aliantha 07-20-2008 02:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Radar (Post 470184)
Back then, as now, I was a more intelligent, and better person than you and my campaign was very successful. It's cute when someone who has lost every argument with me has the temerity to call me a loser.

In America, we have a little thing called the Constitution and our constitution was created to restrict the powers of our government. It grants government certain powers and those include ROADS. I have no problem paying for services that I use. American taxes are paid for with gasoline taxes. I think a better way to do it would be to make the roads private and to pay tolls. And we should allow any private person to create toll roads if they buy the land and build them.

As far as parks, public restrooms, etc., I'd be for having privately owned parks run by nature conservancies. I'd pay a fee to use the park as long as it had clean restrooms that don't stink...which very few parks in America have.

Just a couple of things.

Firstly, so were you a winner or a loser when you ran? You didn't answer the question.

Secondly, with respect to your last couple of paragraphs; let's just use the question of roads for the sake of argument. If you don't pay taxes, who is going to provide the roads for you to drive on? I'm really interested to know what your solution would be (aside from putting tolls on all roads because this is simply not feasible and I don't have the time or energy to bother putting type the reasons why your suggestion is totally ludicrous).


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