If the terrorists have you in such dire fear for your safety that they are changing your actions, making you give up rights, making you do things that you shouldn't, making you terrified...

They've won.

Relevance?

Where did you gather those conlusions. If you are not a little more worried since 9/11 then you are complacent. I am quite comfortable, relaxed, and know that there are a lot of things going on in the world outside our borders by very dedicated individuals who are making sure that we never have a repeat.;) My actions have not changed and my rights have not been taken away. On the contrary you have been sold a bill of goods that have made you fear and become terrified that you have lost something you have not. Answer me this, any of you, specifically what has happened DIRECTLY to you where you have lost a right? Anything. Anybody.

Your ignorance about the world around you outside your current life.

Incorrect.

But what is the relevance of the prior terrorist investigations? Were they too busy to get a FISA warrant, too?

I have no idea and neither do you. I know that they were conducted and actively chased, and in many cases captured. The dicotomy here is that people whine because of 9/11 and then they whine because actions were taken to prevent another 9/11, you can't have it both ways.

So HM, specifically what has happened DIRECTLY to you where you have lost a right? Anything.

I need legal standing to discuss a political issue?

*cough*he'sahypocrit*cough*

And they did it with warrants. Great! Let's go back to that.

No, lets not deviate. HM, specifically what has happened DIRECTLY to you where you have lost a right? Anything. Come on, your rights are so under attack, describe your personal loss.

That's silly. It's like asking you "what terrorism has specifically happened to you, that you're willing to give up these rights?"

9/11. Direct loss.

Same for you SPEX, specifically what has happened DIRECTLY to you where you have lost a right? Anything. Come on, your rights are so under attack, describe your personal loss. Anything??? I really want to know how you have been personally affected. Come on, I am open to hear your stories.

You died?