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rkzenrage 03-12-2007 01:51 AM
Come on... you like hot fresh gooey posts and you know it!

Aliantha 03-12-2007 01:52 AM
OH ok....I admit it. I'm a sucker for the soft mushy ones. All the better to sink my teeth into. ;)

rkzenrage 03-12-2007 01:53 AM
:eek: Stay away:eek:

Aliantha 03-12-2007 01:55 AM
lol...I can't. The soft posts just keep coming.

rkzenrage 03-12-2007 01:59 AM
No teeth!

Aliantha 03-12-2007 02:00 AM
we are talking about metaphorical teeth and online posts now aren't we?

rkzenrage 03-12-2007 02:01 AM
Um...yeah, sure we are.

Aliantha 03-12-2007 02:03 AM
that's ok then.

Now back to the topic at hand...

natural rights?

rkzenrage 03-12-2007 02:06 AM
Men have the right to NO TEETH!!!!

Aliantha 03-12-2007 02:07 AM
most men are born with no teeth. :)

rkzenrage 03-12-2007 02:09 AM
Yeah, yeah.... ok.

Ibby 03-12-2007 02:26 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Clodfobble (Post 322345)
But you realize this is the exact opposite of what Wilde was writing about here, right? He goes on about how awful it is to have to live your life for someone else (i.e., to have empathy and choose to take care of the less fortunate) and would rather it was mandatory so he wouldn't have to think about it.
No, he said restructure society so that they were taken care of in a libertarian way - not by the government but by a societal kind of mandatoryness - play nice or leave kinda thing. That's still no-government, and still therefore not really mandatory.

piercehawkeye45 03-12-2007 01:40 PM
God, it is IMPOSSIBLE to have all freedoms in one politcal government. It is my freedom to make as much money at the expense of others and it is also my freedom to persue happiness which is impossible when I have to work two minimum wage jobs to feed my children. These two scenarios can not work together so you will either have to pick one or try to find the middle ground between them.

KGZotU 03-12-2007 02:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45 (Post 322500)
God, it is IMPOSSIBLE to have all freedoms in one politcal government. It is my freedom to make as much money at the expense of others and it is also my freedom to persue happiness which is impossible when I have to work two minimum wage jobs to feed my children. These two scenarios can not work together so you will either have to pick one or try to find the middle ground between them.
Under what scenario involving the 'freedom to make as much money at the expense of others' are you forced to have children and support them with two minimum wage jobs?

--Joe

piercehawkeye45 03-12-2007 06:16 PM
Ummm.....America right now. If you don't think that it is damn near impossible for some people to get out of poverty you are very naive.


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