There is no convenient time to follow one's convictions.
If good turns bad at some point, it has ceased to be good.
That point is where the strength of one's beliefs are determined.

By those that do. Conversely those that don't share that opinion/follow that rule, call those that do, something else.

Two opposing positions calling each other names, now what? Majority rules? Mob rules? Reason rules?

Nobody can seem to tell me why their side is right other than claimimg moral high ground or being more rational.

Why is it bad to kill a human being? :dunce:

The murderers vs. the non-murderers? Should I be worried about you?

In what? A spelling bee? A bake off? A war?

So your telling me you have decided what side you're on and feel there is no reason to defend your position because it's obviously the right position and anyone who wasn't a murderer could see that? :lol:

No, I'm not telling you that. I would be wrong if I told you that.

True.
Your actions are your ethics and morals.
What/who you say you are means nothing.

That's true, but it doesn't make you right. :D

The correct translation, V, is You shall do no murder. Wrongful killing. It does not proscribe rightful killing. No wonder you argue with me -- you are valiant in your ignorance.

I, on the other hand, choose to know something whereof I speak.

Urbane Guerrilla and BigV sound like Alex from Clockwork Orange, in a verbal altercation with himself. Keep up the good work, guys. Lovin' it.

Why does it have to have anything to do with what's in the bible? Why can't it just have something to do with what you know is right?

Excellent point Ali. Are we so bereft of ability to decipher what's right and what's wrong.....or even more importantly, what's useful and what's counterproductive, that we must needs take our morality from ancient manuscripts?

I am not a Christian and am staunchly against the death penalty (Yes, even when it has been cases where my family have been the victims. People always assume no one has the strength of their convictions.)
I was not raised Christian, so my morals do not stem from the bible either.

The reason people bring Christianity into it so often, IMO, is the inherent hypocrisy of being a Christian and pro-death penalty... especially a "pro-lifer", pro-death penalty "Christian". Just makes no sense at all, particularly when they tend to be the most vocal and bloodthirsty proponents.

"Thou shalt not murder", or "kill" if you want to go with the mistranslation. Then saying they want to murder someone strapped to a chair or bed... yeah, tell me another one. There is no way that that can be translated into self-defense, there is no compassion or forgiveness involved there... nothing of the teachings of Christ apparent, so people see the organizations for what they are.
Pretty simple. I like it.

I support the death penalty because I believe that if a person commits an act so hienous, so irreconcilable with our values as cold blooded murder or murder of the helpless, then they forfet their right to get any older.

So you're anti-abortion, then?

person...not feotus