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Don't stop, thinking about tomorrow,
Don't stop, it'll soon be here,
It'll be, better than before,
Yesterday's gone, yesterday's gone.

You've got to many cool happenings on the horizon, another mile of bad road is a piece of cake. :thumb2:

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Originally Posted by Gravdigr (Post 849142)

Could one of our Australian dwellars please tell me if the info here bears out, or, if the info has been manipulated, or somesuch?

Haven't watched the video - crappy download speeds - but found this:

http://phys.org/news/2013-01-faking-...se.html#ajTabs

Which should answer all your questions. If you can read around all the annoying adds.

ETA Short version:

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While the impact of the Australian gun laws is still debated, there have been large decreases in the number of firearm suicides and the number of firearm homicides in Australia. Homicide rates in Australia are only 1.2 per 100,000 people, with less than 15 percent of these resulting from firearms. Prior to the implementation of the gun laws, 112 people were killed in 11 mass shootings. Since the implementation of the gun laws, no comparable gun massacres have occured in Australia.

Homicide and suicide rates have declined in Australia since the 1990s. Deaths results from firearms have plunged even more dramatically. In Australia, mass shootings similar to Port Arthur, Hoddle Street and Strathfield have not occurred for over a decade.

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Originally Posted by ZenGum (Post 850152)

If you can read around all the annoying adds.

*cough*adblock*couch*

This 4-page article is the first in a new series on the gun industry in the US.

NY Times
MIKE McINTIRE
1/26/13

Selling a New Generation on Guns

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Threatened by long-term declining participation in shooting sports,
the firearms industry has poured millions of dollars into a broad campaign
to ensure its future by getting guns into the hands of more, and younger, children.

The industry’s strategies include giving firearms, ammunition and cash to youth groups;
weakening state restrictions on hunting by young children;
marketing an affordable military-style rifle for “junior shooters” and
sponsoring semiautomatic-handgun competitions for youths;
and developing a target-shooting video game that promotes brand-name weapons,
with links to the Web sites of their makers.

The pages of Junior Shooters, an industry-supported magazine
that seeks to get children involved in the recreational use of firearms,
once featured a smiling 15-year-old girl clutching a semiautomatic rifle.
At the end of an accompanying article that extolled target shooting with a Bushmaster AR-15
— an advertisement elsewhere in the magazine directed readers to a coupon for buying one
— the author encouraged youngsters to share the article with a parent.
“Who knows?” it said. “Maybe you’ll find a Bushmaster AR-15 under
your tree some frosty Christmas morning!”
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The overall objective was summed up in another study, commissioned last year by the shooting sports industry,
that suggested encouraging children experienced in firearms to recruit other young people.
The report, which focused on children ages 8 to 17, said these “peer ambassadors”
should help introduce wary youngsters to guns slowly, perhaps through paintball,
archery or some other less intimidating activity.
“The point should be to get newcomers started shooting something,
with the natural next step being a move toward actual firearms,”
said the report, which was prepared for the National Shooting Sports Foundation and the Hunting Heritage Trust.
<snip>

Well, now we know what all those tobacco marketing executives are doing now. :mad:

Learning to properly handle,(and learning by mistakes every kid is bound to make), a single shot 22, is a smarter option. If a kid makes the ultimate mistake of shooting a person, including themselves, a 22 gives a good survival rate.

I don't approve of minors shooting high powered rifles. They kick, and kick hard. Children should not be subjecting their still growing joints and connective tissue, to repeated heavy blows.
Sure, they get thumped playing sports and general rough-housing, but that's not the same. A day at the range would be like hitting themselves with a hammer, in the same spot, about a hundred times.

If only kids understood what a burden this huge penis is... sigh :o

Hence, make dad jealous.

Well, the plan from the "don't increase gun laws" contingent is "don't increase gun laws" and only "don't increase gun laws".

Good idea. Been working so far, let's stick with it.

Well perhaps if we actually enforced the laws we have instead of kneecaping the FTA we might get somewhere, because new laws that are equally unenforced will service just as well as ones that are not there. One a side note I think the name of the FTA should be changed to Firearms Alcohol and Tobacco and then they will be called the FAT squad.

They are in charge of explosives, too- FATE.

Oscar Pistorius shoots girlfriend - reports

http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/Ne...ports-20130214

South Africa is a high crime country, and if you didn't have legs, you'd feel extra vulnerable, and want to spring to your defence. I understand him being armed and ready to use. Pity he seems to have skipped the "target identification" step, and jumped to a conclusion. Legally, I don't think he has a leg to stand on. He must feel like a real heel.

Did I miss any?

Yep, missed one.

Dang, that was quick.

See http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3szmvh/

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Originally Posted by ZenGum (Post 852757)

Did I miss any?

He was handy - capped her ass

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Originally Posted by toranokaze (Post 852583)

Well perhaps if we actually enforced the laws we have instead of kneecaping the FTA we might get somewhere,

That would require more agents and more prisons, which would increase gubmint spending.... and that will go nowhere in a repubican controlled house.

Next!

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90-Year-Old Killed, Suspect Arrested in Bucks Co. Standoff

Cairns, according to authorities, opened fire on officers around 7:40 Tuesday night. Police fired at least four rounds in return. During the gun battle, a downstairs neighbor, a 90-year-old woman, was shot and killed,

If only the old gal had been packing heat, she might be alive today! :rolleyes: