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BigV 11-15-2012 07:26 PM

Here's some more Real Mitt Romney for you. Are familiar with the idea of "transference"? Seeing people as you are? Projecting? I think this is what Romney's doing here in his analysis of why he lost, no, how Obama bought the election. He's saying valuable gifts to people in exchange for their votes is how elections work. Romney: “The president’s campaign focused on giving targeted groups a big gift"

Blacks, Women, Hispanics, all their votes bought with gifts

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Originally Posted by The Real Mitt Romney
"With regards to the young people, for instance, a forgiveness of college loan interest was a big gift," Mr. Romney said. "Free contraceptives were very big with young, college-aged women. And then, finally, Obamacare also made a difference for them, because as you know, anybody now 26 years of age and younger was now going to be part of their parents' plan, and that was a big gift to young people. They turned out in large numbers, a larger share in this election even than in 2008."

"You can imagine for somebody making $25,000 or $30,000 or $35,000 a year, being told you're now going to get free health care, particularly if you don't have it, getting free health care worth, what, $10,000 per family, in perpetuity - I mean, this is huge," Mr. Romney said. "Likewise with Hispanic voters, free health care was a big plus. But in addition with regards to Hispanic voters, the amnesty for children of illegals, the so-called Dream Act kids, was a huge plus for that voting group."

This is how the Real Mitt Romney sees the world. To him, this is how people operate. I think he'd reckon that had he won, he'd be reaping the rewards of all the gifts he pledged to give, like an elimination of taxes on capital gains, like a 20% reduction on income taxes, like a giant expansion of the defense industry, etc etc. The Real Mitt Romney sees elections as quid pro quo exchanges, votes for gifts, and he was out-matched in the giving of gifts. No mention of ideals, or facts, or stuff like that. Sour fucking grapes. What a loser.

tw 11-15-2012 08:03 PM

The Republican Party must decide what it wants to be. That discussed in another thread. Romney must also redefine himself. Will he become a moderate again? Or will he do what Sarah Palin was doing?

Review McCain's position. After losing to Obama, McCain (a moderate) found even his Senate seat at risk by wacko (future tea party) extremists. So McCain reframed himself as conservative. Eventually disappearing into irrelevance because he stopped being a party leader. But then, can you blame him? Some of the Party's best leaders were being driven from office by tea party extremists. They even replaced Delaware's popular Republican Senator with a witch. That witch then lost the election by one of the largest margins possible.

Many in the party know the public is misguided. Therefore the party must be more extremist. What does Romney do? Does he become a party leader? Or does he disappear into obscurity because he even had to lie about being so conservative?

Apparently Obama would like to work with Romney to solve this nation's problem. Only one of 15 some Republicans (ie Perry, Bachman, Gingrich, etc) on that stage last year, that had any grasp of reality, was Romney. Which means he will probably be deposed by the party's extremists as being too liberal. Maybe more liberal than Ted Kennedy?

Romney must now answer questions similar to what McCain answered four years ago.

DanaC 11-16-2012 02:31 AM

Those damn people with their sense of entitlement to free stuffs, stole the election from the rightful candidate. Damnit, he was entitled to the presidency!

Lamplighter 11-21-2012 01:46 PM

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The Romney stars align in Google News again...

Trilby 11-23-2012 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by tw (Post 839070)
...They even replaced Delaware's popular Republican Senator with a witch. That witch then lost the election by one of the largest margins possible.

It's tough to get the witches out to vote. Mostly, they stay at home, sitrring their cauldrons of free government hand-outs like bats, newts and frog hearts. Oh, and Cheese. Loads of Government Cheese.


and B) She wasn't REALLY a witch. She only accidentally dated one. Like accidentally dating a black guy or not knowing your boyfriend Adam is Jewish. It was accidental and even though she went along with the Satanic picnic (and mixing her metaphoric religions to boot) she only did it out of politeness.

richlevy 11-23-2012 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Trilby (Post 840182)
She wasn't REALLY a witch. She only accidentally dated one. Like accidentally dating a black guy or not knowing your boyfriend Adam is Jewish. It was accidental and even though she went along with the Satanic picnic (and mixing her metaphoric religions to boot) she only did it out of politeness.

It's even worse when you marry the guy....

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ST. PAUL, Minnesota — Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin's husband, Todd, twice registered as a member of the Alaskan Independence Party, a fierce states' rights group that wants to turn all federal lands in Alaska back to the state. Sarah Palin herself was never a member of the party, according to state officials.
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Palin did address the Alaskan Independence Party's state convention by video earlier this year, welcoming the party to Fairbanks.

ZenGum 11-29-2012 05:06 PM

I'm here to officially present The Alamo Award to Adak, for manning the walls and keeping up a heck of an effort in the face of overwhelming disbelief, counterargument and contrary evidence, and keeping it relatively civil as well.

If you were a paid Republican Rep you earned every penny, and if you're just a dyed-in-the-wool enthusiast, you did all you could.

As a foreigner, I found it interesting and educational to see the Republican party line presented so tenaciously. Hard luck about the election, but don't worry too much about Obama-socialism and stuff. He's still to the right of most OECD countries today.

glatt 11-30-2012 08:17 AM

Id like to see Adak come back. Especially to the IotD threads.

DanaC 11-30-2012 10:10 AM

I liked Adak. He annoyed me from time to time, but I found him engaging and interesting.

Clodfobble 11-30-2012 11:53 AM

That's why he earns the big bucks. Can't buy that kind of fluency just anywhere.

BigV 11-30-2012 12:20 PM

I'd welcome Adak's return to regular posting as well.

ZenGum 11-30-2012 05:22 PM

Just quietly ... I'm still not sure it wasn't UG's sockpuppet.

Mature age, lives in Southern California, Naval background, excellent grammar, and the politics was about right - the libertarian rather than reactionary side of conservative. And I never saw them both posting at the same time.

Well, there's probably millions like that, so maybe not.

xoxoxoBruce 11-30-2012 05:24 PM

I don't think so, I doubt UG could avoid nuking the thread. :haha:

BigV 11-30-2012 05:26 PM

They're similar, true.

But UG is much more condescending, much more snobby, and compensates for goodness knows what by using really big words, cause, y'know, they're really big.

I suspect the two of them would be pleasant company for each other, but they are *not* the same person. UG doesn't have the discipline to let us all use the same vocabulary for such an extended performance.

Lamplighter 11-30-2012 07:59 PM

If UT is/was Adek, I'd be very disappointed.
UT is much more engaging than a just parroting of the party line.


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