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piercehawkeye45 06-02-2007 07:59 PM

This is pointless. I'm not going to argue with someone who actually believes capitalism is never wrong. It isn't worth it.

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Slavery is about keeping them alive to work, not killing them... cannot be called a genocide. Africans being captured and sold by Africans to whomever would buy them, just as many Europeans as Americans. Not a genocide.
Since 1/3 of the blacks that came on slave ships died I'm pretty sure they did a pretty bad job at it. They didn't care if they died or not because they could always get more. When 16 million die that can easily be counted as a genocide. The killing of the culture plays a role in it as well.

Undertoad 06-02-2007 08:10 PM

It's not very useful to consider anything pre-industrial revolution to be Capitalism as we know it. Certainly nothing before 1776 when Adam Smith published "The Wealth of Nations". Probably nothing until Marx came along to define what it was not. Hard to say what the economics was, in the days when most ships sailed under the direction of Kings.

piercehawkeye45 06-02-2007 08:30 PM

I forgot to reply to this earlier but radar and rage, read this carefully then re-read it about five more times because you two don't seem to get it.

I believe rights are made by society and that is what helps keep us in order. I follow and respect most rights that are made by our society. I will never hurt anyone, make someone do something against their will like slavery, or force my ideals upon anyone else.

If you do not understand what I just said, don't bother because you never will.

Yznhymr 06-02-2007 10:47 PM

The Middle Passage is supposed to be a good book related to this discussion. I haven't found time to read it, yet. However, I found a website here that has good info for inquiring minds.

rkzenrage 06-02-2007 11:38 PM

Genocide denotes intent.

lumberjim 06-02-2007 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by piercehawkeye45 (Post 350190)
I forgot to reply to this earlier but radar and rage, read this carefully then re-read it about five more times because you two don't seem to get it.

I believe rights are made by society and that is what helps keep us in order. I follow and respect most rights that are made by our society. I will never hurt anyone, make someone do something against their will like slavery, or force my ideals upon anyone else.

If you do not understand what I just said, don't bother because you never will.

that's why they call it dope, bub.

Aliantha 06-02-2007 11:50 PM

Speaking of people shooting each other, I just watched blood diamond. Has anyone else seen it?

rkzenrage 06-03-2007 12:18 AM

These people look like a hoot to party with.
Look at their profiles...

Aliantha 06-03-2007 12:22 AM

they look like a bunch of fucking weirdos

rkzenrage 06-03-2007 12:25 AM

Ya' think? Every profile is the same, they all say Swinger and Bi and every profile has weird 80's music on it.
It's a gun cult.
I enjoy shooting and all... but, I doubt that ten year old kid has a class 3 license.
http://a541.ac-images.myspacecdn.com...548d090b5c.jpg

Aliantha 06-03-2007 12:26 AM

Like I said, fuking weirdos. ;)

rkzenrage 06-03-2007 12:28 AM

I would love to hear their entry exam... "Soooooo... who do you and your wife like to screw?"

Aliantha 06-03-2007 12:29 AM

Or how...just to make sure they 'fit in' and all.

rkzenrage 06-03-2007 12:30 AM

Bi chicks with guns are hot n' all... there is that.
There may be something to this... hmmmmm....
Who is this master?
I think I may be starting to see tha' light!!!!

lumberjim 06-03-2007 12:31 AM

would you pretend to be a gun weirdo just to bag a cute bi swinger chick? i might.


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