Jill was warned in "Obama Announces Re-election Bid":
Spexxvet suggested one solution: Unfortunately, Jill decided to post with honesty and logic. So she suffered numerous personal attacks and insults, as predicted. An example in No House resolution honoring SEAL's bin Laden mission:

Aw, man. What an awkward honor. Do I need to beg the mercy of the supreme council to have this removed?

The Supreme Council doesn't know the meaning of the word mercy.

Their chief weapon is fear, and a fanatical devotion to the Pope?

amongst their weaponry are such diverse elements as...

[bugs bunny]
What a revoltin' development!
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Look at all the nice people pointing fingers at all the mean people. Oh, that's not very nice.

It's like the Tea Party all up in heah.

/yawn

Ideally, people would focus on the issue at hand and not the character of the person debating.

Ha!

Yeah, I know...that doesn't happen out there on the campaign trail and in public, where it matters, why should it be expected on an internet forum where everyone is relatively anonymous?

Now, I'm off to the fluffy threads where nothing serious or intelligent is ever said.

That's true. I've found that righties are very willing to dogpile (or gangrape, as someone else put it).

chyeah - You couldn't even get enough "righties" to make a dogpile on here.

Oh come on now. There are plenty of righties here.

I find it quite amusing that the lefties on this board think that they are in the minority and the righties think the same.

Great observation! It does seem that way.

I think it's pretty equal, actually. Or maybe, with the exception of us extremists (see what I did thar?) lefties are sometimes too frightened to be out and out lefties and righties are too stubborn to admit to out and out rightism. :lol:

:f20:Here you go infi:f20:

-you get bermuda for your sense of humor. A little Brit in there, but mostly a big mysterious area where strange things happen and people get lost :D

Thank you! :)

You made my day.

....and now I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not.....

:lol:

I'm not!

But, as P.T. Barnum said...always keep 'em guessing.

I thought he said keep 'em gassing.....?

Wasn't that Himmler?


(just kill me now. i can't believe I said that...)

Ba DUM dum!

so....

....if someone mentions Himmler...does that mean the thread is dead?

(pleasebetruepleasebetruepleasebetrue)

No.;)

All you have to do is believe!

Should we all clap our hands?

And let's do a celebratory dance:

Clap your hands everybody
Slide to the left
Take it back now y'all
One hop this time
Right foot lets stomp
Left foot lets stomp
Cha Cha now y'all

To the left
Take it back now y'all
Two hops this time
Two on the left
Two on the right
Cha Cha now y'all

Slide to the right
Slide to the left
Take it back now y'all
One hop this time
Right foot lets stomp
Left foot lets stomp
Charlie Brown
Cha Cha now y'all

Five hops this time
Touch your knees
How low can you go
Can go down low
All the way to floor
Can you bring it the top
Like you never never stop
One hop this time
Right foot lets stomp
Left lets stomp

Reverse Reverse
Reverse Reverse

Here we go again.

Here we go again
Same old shit again
Marching down the avenue
Few more days and we'll be through
I won't have to look at you
So, I'll be glad and so will you

Mamma mia, here I go again
My my, how can I resist you?
Mamma mia, does it show again?
My my, just how much I've missed you
Yes, I've been brokenhearted
Blue since the day we parted
Why, why did I ever let you go?
Mamma mia, now I really know,
My my, I could never let you go

Oops! I did it again
I played with your heart, got lost in the game
Oh baby, baby
Oops! You think I'm in love
That I'm sent from above
I'm not that innocent
Oh baby ...


Jump, you know my heart can make you happy
Jump, you know these arms can feel you up
Jump in, you want to taste my kisses
In the night then, jump, jump for my love

I don't know where I'm going
But, I sure know where I've been
Hanging on the promises
In songs of yesterday
An' I've made up my mind,
I ain't wasting no more time
But, here I go again
Here I go again

Tho' I keep searching for an answer,
I never seem to find what I'm looking for
Oh Lord, I pray
You give me strength to carry on,
'Cos I know what it means
To walk along the lonely street of dreams

An' here I go again on my own
Goin' down the only road I've ever known,
Like a drifter I was born to walk alone
An' I've made up my mind
I ain't wasting no more time

I'm just another heart in need of rescue,
Waiting on love's sweet charity
An' I'm gonna hold on
For the rest of my days,
'Cos I know what it means
To walk along the lonely street of dreams

An' here I go again on my own
Goin' down the only road I've ever known,
Like a drifter I was born to walk alone
An' I've made up my mind
I ain't wasting no more time...

Word.

IM has a point. 2 when it's cold.


I think there are a couple of very vocal life long lefties, a couple of young haven't experienced anything yet lefties, and a whole lot of left leaning centrists. I also think there are a handful right leaning centrists (including a lifelong democrat) and a couple of right wing nutjobs.

I'm not really a right wing nutjob, I just play one in the cellar. I happen to hate the republicans with as much conviction as I do the democrats.

How can anyone admit to being a Democrat. It was the party of slavery and opression. Isn't admiting to being a Democrat the same as claiming to be a Nazi (in the overall magnitude of evil)? Nazism was "squashed" in 1945, but Democrats continue to systematically deny civil rights and even commit murders up until the late 1960's.

Democrats = Nazis = Pure Evil

That's helpful.

You have to admit it is true. Do you support lynch mobs, segregation, and slavery?

Sarge - Up until now I assumed that you were a right-leaner with brain cells. But this divisive post makes me question that assumption. Do you really imagine that such posts convince left-leaners the error of their ways?

If this was intended to be a humorous mocking of some other Dwellar's style, then you should have stuck a smiley on it. Irony can be really hard to detect on the internet.

Either way - not helping.

How about this: ;)

It makes about as much sense as some of opinions posted about George Bush & Republicans. Everything I said is factual. It all comes down to how you interpret the data

OK. And how persuasive did you find those posts?

realistically, no one on here will change their political beliefs based upon posts on the cellar. do you??

That's not true. I have been persuaded by the arguments of people here on certain issues. Maybe not to believe what they believe but to modify my opinions/views. Why bother interacting with people if you are not going to consider what they have to say?

Not many will admit having been won over, perhaps? But I'm pretty sure I've seen others who have conceded points and modified their views accordingly.

Or maybe I was dreaming

I'm open to persuasion on many topics. And yes, I have modified my thinking more than once based on conversations here at the cellar.

If you won't learn from today, what need have you for tomorrow?

I've adjusted my views because of posts in the Cellar.

Not recently though. There haven't been too many good political conversations lately.

heehee .....I see fodder for the righties claiming right! (even though i gotta say one of my major wake-up calls/changes of POV was how giving certain extremists an inch led them to take a mile so I realized I needed to steer in the other direction :lol:)

I thought you used the metric system.

Please re-post with appropriate units.

Wouldnt that be like questioning how anyone could be a Republican? It is the party that wants to impose their moral values of all of society and restrict who you can marry, control a woman's reproductive rights, condemn a religion and attempt to limit its practice?

The difference? WAS the party vs IS the party. :)

Old world sayin's have 666c(3) metric exemption ...plus I'm all American now (except for the legal shit).

I'm not an R, but... that's a rather skewed perception.
Thats like saying the Democrats ARE the party of child murderers.

Of course its skewed.

It was a response to a skewed post and skewed view of history to make a point.

This thread almost sorted itself out.

Nope, more dirty laundry.

Hey, it's mostly civil though, I'm cool with it. It is fun to watch Dana and Lookout flirting. If this were a movie, they would have to end up in bed together; it's one of those narrative conventions that just takes control.

thirded.

I've been hot for that commie tart ever since she showed her Marx spouting mouth around these parts.

fourthdeded

The Cellar has fundamentally altered my political beliefs.

It has changed my orientation to right-wingers, and given me a different perspective on the left. I am still a socialist. But I have taken on board some of what I've read on here and that has filtered through and changed the tone of that socialism.

Most importantly, it has altered how I see the political divide. Taken alongside recent studies around brain chemistry ad political orientation, the Cellar has made me believe we need both in society.

That realistion, combined with my experiences of party politics, has removed my life-long opposition to PR (proportional representation) and changed my orientation to the first past the post system and the shape of our Parliament.

That is a fairly fundamental change in my political outlook. And the Cellar has been a significant factor in that.



[eta] I pressed reply from the previous page and missed the comments here. Rowr!

we learned in school that they were! you mean they lied to us??

No kidding. American (fatty) bacon in a chicken recipe? That's pretty American right thar.

Oh no, bacon rolls are an essential part of good old British roast chicken dinner. bacon and chicken are inseparable.

Well shoot.

Can't -I'm a gun-banning freedom-hatin' liberal ;)

Here you go, chicken/bacon mama:

(My friend made those kebabs...she goes all out. I just ate some chicken/bacon and the pineapple. mmmmmm.)