Just turn slightly to the left. :)

Oh, and it was me who did the tag for you and merc. :D

I'm not sure it's possible for me to turn any more to the left. :D :biggrinlo

Ain't that the damm truth!

lol...settle down Merc. Didn't you know you luv Jill?

eta: almost as much as you luv me. ;)

No, you are attempting to dictate...

There is no debate, there is only you trying to tell us how right you are in your views. There is no exchange, there never has been. Not even before your rant about your loan failure.

You are not now and never have been a "partner". No way, no how. Eva. You are just another POS with a differing opinion. No big deal.

Oh goodie, a new name! Now I'm a bitch, a G-d Damn Fool and a piece of shit. Can I be a twat, too? I've always wanted to be a twat.

As for you thinking I had a loan failure, now I know why your behavior is so bizarre -- you really are on drugs.

That is why America is so great. You can be all of those things or none of those things. The choice is yours.....

None of it matters to me. You choose.

I gots no twat, would "slut" be ok?

Classic! did you just call Jill a slut! she will not be happy with you!

I'm totally down with slut! Even my husband would approve! :cool:

If you don't have pictures we can't believe you. Wait! I see you!

That's pretty bad merc. You're sinking pretty low.

An amazing example of the devolution of a thread.

You aren't very bright, are you, Merc? Been here how long and still haven't figured out how to view photo albums in someone's profile?

Yeah, yeah, you just wanted to post a "disgusting" picture to make fun of me. But by leading off with the admonition that "If [ I ] don't have pictures, [you] can't believe [me]," makes you look like a retard, since I do have pictures here. Here, I'll make it easy for you:

http://cellar.org/picture.php?albumid=24&pictureid=166

Suck on that!

I was only joking, sheeeeesh.... :rolleyes:

Good lord, I don't really care what you look like. I have never tried to look at your profile. I just don't care. I was joking with you. Get over yer self. You don't have to defend your ugliness with me.... You are doing a fine job as it is.

I dunno about that merc. You've been giving the lady a pretty hard time and you're starting to look like a bit of a tosser, and personally I think that's sad, cause I know you're not.

Now, are you ready for me to kick your arse? ;)

She gets what she gives.

As for you, yea I can take it. No biggie. I have much more respect for you.

Maybe just cause you know me better? Remember there was a time when we didn't see eye to eye.

I do. Yes I do. But I respect you. And there in lies the difference....

Dayum - you lost a lot of weight - What's your secret? ;)

I reckon Jill is ok. She's just giving you righties a bit of a going over. Don't be too harsh. She's just taking up the batton for us lefties. ;)

Weight Watchers. Works everytime!

I'd also add that it took quite some time for us to build the mutual respect we have, but it wouldn't have happened if we both didn't decide to stop and listen once in a while. Don't you reckon?

I had an imposter pose for me in the first picture. I was undercover in a covert operation, dontchaknow. :D

I've never tried weight watchers. Maybe I should! lol

Shit! Why didn't anyone tell me!!?

Just saw this ....

TRIPLE WARNING - EXTREMELY GRAPHIC

http://www.cbsnews.com/2300-202_162-...in;contentBody

Can't argue with that. And a lot of agreeing to disagree. And there is not a damm thing wrong with that either. Hell, if I didn't have that I wouldn't have any friends. :lol:

lol...I can see how that would be the case.

Anyway, I just think you could save us all a lot of trouble by skipping the grumpy old conservative bit and getting straight to the bit when you metamorphasise into a mature, generous and entertaining person. ;)

Seriously, dude? Where did I tell you to fuck off, call you a prick, a G-d Damn moron, denigrate your life, make false allegations about you, or post any of the other feces-infected crap you've flung at me?

But I'll tell you this now; you're rude, reactionary, childish, untruthful, nasty and hateful. You need to get a grip of yourself and figure out why you fly off the handle like you do. It's extremely unattractive and does not engender anyone to have even the most remote desire to know you better.

I am completely cool with that. In fact I would welcome that from you....

Jill, you'll have better luck with UG - and that's not sayin' much.

Well now you know. :)

:lol: your memory is short.

Oooh...I feel so special. lol

Wow, that's quite the statement there.

Sad.

Show me.

Ya know - while you two are bickering... Osama is DEAD!
Think of the children.

And the kittens.....

My kitten died in 9/11! you insensitive bastard!!

Blame Obama, I mean Osama....

Still no links to me telling you to fuck off, etc., huh, Merc?

Nope, just me, it is all about me.

Yeah, we all know why, too. Because there aren't any. You might want to remember that next time you try to accuse me of things never did.

You came on here like a bitch on wheels, you get what you deserved. I have no reservations. Take it like a big girl and move on.

You know what I think is the saddest thing of all?

12 months from now we're going to be having the same arguments for the anniversary of the event.

Can't wait! :rolleyes:

Hey, at least I got a promotion. I'm not just a bitch anymore, I'm a bitch on wheels! Woo Hoo!

Osama can't be dead. I haven't seen the pictures yet.

So Jill doesn't have the right to voice her opinions because she isn't a regular? So you call her inane, childish and hateful names instead of trying to have a reasonable conversation? Yeah, you completely believe in this country's ideals....free speech and all that. :rolleyes:

Jill, keep doing what you're doing hon.

Jill, when he starts with the name calling and cussing its because he's cornered and knows it. His game is weak and always has been. Like mtp says, just keep doing what you're doing.

jill is DA MAN. Well, da woman. :)

Giving Merc just enough rope to hang himself with. Jill can hold her own.

It's unfortunate, though, that the Cellar seems unable to hold an intelligent discussion in politics.

It's not 'the Cellar.'

It's the same character over and over. Someone tries, gets shot down, by being treated like a mongrel dog.

I was dismayed at all the "will you two quit bickering" crap when it's just a repeated pattern and the same player shitting all over the place. jill didn't come out bickering. She came out thoughtful and well read and capable.

Even UG doesn't resort to the kind of crap that transpired here yesterday. His "im, you are ignorant" isn't all that bothersome. We consider the source. We even giggle. He cites. We disagree. It's not harmful.

I'm sorry. I had given up my quest to engage in this crap. I didn't want to be an instigator or supporter of it at all anymore. But it's ridiculous.

Sure, he hangs himself. Every time. But treating humans with differing viewpoints (and in many cases actual cites that illustrate and illuminate) the way he does? It's wrong. And it's why there will never be productive or respectful discourse in politics on the Cellar.

Pop-ins to tell someone how wonderful they are, and repeated reminding of manliness by pointing out which women one would like to scrog, do not negate the sheer hatefulness that transpires.

Flame me. I expect it.

I agree with this. This is not a 'six of one, half a dozen of the other' argument. Both parties were not equally flinging shit at the other. One was attempting to have a political discussion the other was being an utter cock for no apparent reason and after little if any genuine provocation. Neither were bickering. One was arguing the other was having a public meltdown.

Oh please - I was trying to deflect the issue with a joke.
So IM and Dana - you are taking shots at me over this? WTF?
Puhlease. You wanna bitch at Merc for being an asshole last night
or every night or whatever your opinion is - do it.
But leave me and my one offhand comment out of it?

I taught my children that the participant in an argument who resorts to name-calling, personal attacks, and ad hominem arguments (and/or a raised voice) is the person arguing the weakest point. With solid, unimpeachable data to back a position up, there is no need to sink to mud-slinging to (try to) win an argument.

Shutting down/silencing the opposition, or attempting to, does not eliminate their standpoint or any validity of same.

I wasn't even considering YOU. I heard that comment from Ali. You may have said it too, but I wasn't 'taking a shot at' you because I was replying to what I read as a generalized consensus.

What are you talking about?

Is it Deep End week or what? Can we get Shark Week back?

Sigh...

I wasn't aiming anything at you Dave. I was just commenting on the fact that in this case it isn't a case of bickering. I didn't even have anyone in mind who'd said that, except possibly Aliantha (though i did not mean it in a nasty way Ali) who attempted to peacemake by aiming her mock reprimand at both participants.

Did someone finally ask, "When are we going to go after bin Laden?" I was beginning to wonder if anyone would.