Who let the dick back in?

glatt - Have you gone to both rallies or are you making that assumption based upon media coverage?

"They" very nice.
And you believe all the conservative policy is bad and icky. Gotcha.

Again, I thought the rally was a good thing (third time stating that point)
BUT ......
It was a political rally and there were negative and hateful signs there. I have proved that point repeatedly.

Nice, real nice. oh an classy too.

I do believe sensible regulation is needed, especially in banking, but remember that The Jungle was essentially a work of fiction used to drive earlier regulation. Left to its own ends, the left would clog all economic activity with unrelenting regulation destroying mostly small businesses, which don't have the where-with-all to negotiate the red tape. The right, left to its own ends, would work to enslave and poison us all by protecting monopoly and subverting environmental regulations. Both parties seem to be working to shield big business from a competitive marketplace, which makes sense when you look at their donors.

Thanks Griff. Very well said/written/posted.

Sorry Pico - just being what was it? Twerpy or a Dick or ...

I would assume so - All of these things are.

I'll ask you the same of the Rally.

I have been to a tea party rally in DC and I know several people who attended the Comedy Central rally on Saturday, and I looked at their pictures and heard what they had to say. I also watched 45 minutes of it online.

Do you think your examples of "negative" sign photos are even remotely close to accurately portraying the vibe at the Comedy Central rally?

Thats your opinion.
Yes it was.
He asked for his account to be deleted.

NO! Not at all - I NEVER SAID IT WAS! :mad2:

Again ... I said the rally was a good thing (4x now)
I simply brought up the point that it was a political rally and there were hateful signs there as well. That is all.

I was pushed to prove both points and I did - repeatedly.

Thanks for clarifying that the pictures you posted and repeatedly defended don't reflect what you think. Surely you can understand my confusion though. I saw you say the rally was good, but then you started posting negative pictures and defending them. It seemed like you were changing you mind about the rally.

I guess we don't need him to have an ugly thread.

Mhm. Leaving the Cellar, and the field, to the people of freedom, which, being a Democratic Party Kool-Aid carrier, he was definitely not.

Hasn't, in the end, the courage of his convictions. Not compared to the likes of Classic, Merc, and me.

Spexx, m'dear, "ugly" is a word better spelt F R E E and A D U L T, as in adult thinking, which is something that just prevents you remaining on the Left.

Why does an attempt at presenting all the observations made come out as confusing? Could it be he's making the effort to be complete? Deliver the whole of the picture?

Complete would mean showing the 1000 normal funny signs and including the one "hate filled" sign along with them. Cherrypicking is not showing the complete picture. He even said that the sign he showed doesn't reflect the vibe of the rally.

Realllyyyyyyyy, now. THAT is interesting. When someone else I know asked for the same consideration he was told "we don't do that."

And how do you know anyway?

From the top to the bottom: fucking idiots.

Gooses and ganders only get gotten when gayly gathering posies for the asses of the articulate asshats.

UT posted it - I believe in the APB thread.

Others already posted links to the hundreds. My doing it as well would have been pointlessly redundant.

I guess it goes down to how you define "plenty of hate". I wouldn't say there were plenty of counterprotesters there, though I did see two.

Not incorrect, post 150 you quoted what John Irvine wrote, after the NY Times quote on his page. I said you left out what he wrote before the NY Times quote, and added it.

http://cellar.org/attachment.php?att...1&d=1288669681



I think this is what Yusuf meant when he talked about Rushdie. :rolleyes:

So how is that different from what the press did at Tea Party events?

Why wouldn't people give the same deference to the Tea Party?

Because when the pictures of the tea party signs are posted, there are dozens and dozens of really hateful signs, with no point but name calling. I've seen funny signs too, some rather clever ones, but the hate signs are in the majority. Now that may be because the hate signs are better posting material, but there are so many of them, they can't be isolated instances.

The other thing is the interviews with tea party attendees, where when asked what they're upset about, can only respond with slogans and slurs. Because of who's doing the interviews, and why, I figured it was like Jay Leno's man on the street bit. Talk to a hundred people, and pick out the idiots to make the clip, so I wrote that off.

But when I talk to people, real live working(or not) people, I get the same response from 90% of them. That bothers me a lot. It's ok they disagree with Obama, but these people are really and truly clueless. When they tell me Obama isn't a citizen, their taxes have doubled in the last two years, or Obama caused the recession, I know they're out in lala land.

That's depressing because these people are being used, and in my opinion to fuck themselves and the country.

I agree with you and would say that on that same note when you talk to people about what Obamacare is going to do for them, or how, when Obama got elected, what people expected Obama to do for them was filled with equally clueless comments and expectations. It was obvious that they were told one thing, or at least believed what they had been told in the run up to the election and they got something different. Maybe that contributed to the huge loss yesterday.

I never actually attended any Tea Party events in this area, but we passed by quite a few over the last year or so, I never saw a single hateful sign at any of them. They just looked like ordinary folks. But you know the press, which is liberal by and large, will seek out the pictures of the extremists to further denigrate those they disagree with and then try to repeatedly pass and post those as the mainstream. The NAACP tried it and failed in a big way to paint the organization as racist. At first they were passed off as "astroturf", and now supporters effectively used the system to oust long standing incumbent politicians. That is a good thing IMHO. They were a success. So much for "astroturf"...

Bruce, if you are such a great mind, let's see your ass go to three TEA parties and find something out for yourself. My experience of TEA parties does not remotely resemble what you think you're seeing.

If you're going to content yourself with hostile secondhand accounts, how are you escaping bigotry, I wonder?

I don't have to go there, I've got you.

You do have to go there, and three times: I won't do.

After all, you're more interested in putting me down and pleading to remain mired in your darkness occasionally, than in engaging in personal growth.

I'm more interested in growing than in putting you down. Nor am I here to steer you wrong.