cic---do you NEVER watch horror movies? HUH? it's ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS the CHILD!



(always)

(in some cases it's the "children" but you get where I'm going with this)

S u b l i m a t i o n. You can project all the evil you want in the world, but the fact that you think your kids are just as capable, says a lot. Rowr kitty Kat!

The fact that you have a monster inside that has grown because of abuse, as a natural and normal adult, is one thing.

But to suppose that someone as young, is capable of sublimating the evil you can, is another thing eniterly. What are you protecting them from? Cultivating a relationship with an invisible friend that they like to play with?

Wow. I was just messing around with the whole 'conjure evil' 'evil child' thing as a cultural joke exchange. I wasn't being serious. I guess that must have not computed somewhere over the internets. I am usually speaking with at least half of a forked tongue here and when I am NOT, when I am being serious, most people here can read that. Not you, though.

The fact that you missed the intended fun give and take of the exchange says, indeed, a lot about you.

I wasn't even talking to you specifically. It was more at spode and others that fear a ouija in the hands of children.

Yes, I get the evil children, horror movie joke.

My posts were little ships passing your posts in the night. Which doesn't say shit about me other than the fact that I was using your responses to lump statements so I wouldn't be double posting, as it took awhile to reach a point in the thread. Like leap frog.

Yes I temporarily missed the fun, DAMIEN. ;)

Ok. So that wasn't directed at my post? Ok.

I've raised kids.

I didn't say that Ouija automatically inferred evil.

Divination is a functional tool, much the same as psychoanalysis is a functional tool.

are you referring to this?

lol! That's part of the real fun I meant to mention(but forgot of course). lol!

I was referring to this :):

http://cellar.org/showpost.php?p=514318&postcount=12

Why can't I just troll without people kicking up a fuss? Jeeezuz!

(Kind of like how you conveniently miss all the encouraging posts of mine in other threads.)

I think you both need referring to this :rolleyes:

I think the point some people are making, and certainly one I'd think about is that if the spiritual world exists (and I believe it does) then a child of 11 isn't capable of determining what they might be 'conjuring' in which case, a ouija could be very dangerous.

That being said, I personally don't believe too many people would have the right kind of power to use a ouija for its intended purpose.

Not sure if kids can be evil? Ask Freckle Face Frankenstein, the girl who lived in the house behind ours. I didn't come up with that name (I think) but I sure didn't put a stop to it either. And I considered myself one of the good kids.

Ever read Lord of the Flies? Kids are more evil than most adults. They haven't learned empathy yet.

People who are deeply involved with the occult claim that there are "generational spiritual advantages" passed on in family lines. Advantages of the type that exist around, and are available to even children.
I've ran across the claim more than once.

I'm thinking that attending a psychic fair could introduce anyone here to those who know more than this, and possibly people who themselves got involved as children.
I'm not recommending it though.


Good point about empathy glatt.
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You're right, she does sound evil.

Please spode, with all due respect...tell me what you think of the online Ouija and how that is or is not the same as evil cardboard.

I imagine that most people would laugh at the online version...but I don't see how they can do that yet still think the cardboard version has a possibility of conjuring spirits.

To come to 'Spode's defense, the online version is moved solely by the program that runs on their server. Its answer is determined by its programming + a random number stream.

The cardboard version is controlled by the "human element".

Thus if you believe that humans have the power to do supernatural things, the cardboard version is far, far scarier. :worried:

I see what you're saying. That makes sense.

OK, I'll get off my cardboard vs webz thingy.

Thanks :)

You beeeyotches are gonna be sorry when I get my glow-in-the-dark Ouija board (already named Capn' Howdy) to find out how you turn out in life!

Oh darlin' that story has been told!

And it's not a good one.

You're not done yet, Shawnee

Let me know what the Ouija Glow says then, k? :)

If you know anything about ouija, you know it comes from within. Unless you are stuck in a 60's seance with Madame Freak Freud.

It works the same way as dowsing- either outright manipulation by a participant, or subconscious ideomotor effect.

Dowsing, ever personally seen or done it? There are apparently more than one way to do it.

I saw it done for a water drain pipe, didn't believe it, and was told to do it myself which I did.
It worked- I don't know how... but it worked.
The form we used was two lengths of wire coat hanger each about 12" long. They were each bent at a right angle giving a 2" handle and about a 10" piece running out from each hand. When I walked overtop of the ceramic drain pipe in my yard, the two 10" lengths of wire crossed each other making an X as I looked down at them.
The pipe was buried about 4 ft. underground which we had to dig up so we could replace it. It was the contractor I'd hired who asked me for the coat hanger pieces to locate the drainpipe.
The best I could figure is that there must be some kind of electrical, magnetic field conveyed through the main house drain that it picks up inside the house.
But still, I was walking upright with my hands about 4ft. above ground level making the pipe around 8 ft. below the hanger pieces... cool stuff that has to have a scientific explantion, I just don't know it. :cool:

Anyone have a scientific explanation for me? I would enjoy learning about it.

I find things like that fascinating, Ruminator.

Me too HLJ. ;) :cool:

If you can successfully dowse in a scientifically-controlled experiment, you can win $1,000,000 from the James Randi Foundation. Dowsing is one of the things they have experimented for. So far nobody has won.

Well now I suppose that depends on your definition of "scientific" and your definition of "controlled," doesn't it?

The definition is, essentially, "double blind". If neither the dowser nor any of the observers that the dowser can see know where the water is, then neither do the rods.

Since I didn't know where our house drainpipe was, how did that happen to me?
I've always thought that my occasion was a different explanation than regular dowsing.

Probability combined with cause and effect. The fact that you or anybody dowsed over that area and there happened to be a pipe there are unconnected. The fact that there was a pipe there makes you believe you found it; but some percentage of the time there would be a pipe, even if a Cellar monkey just picked a random location.

There are other possible explanations, such as:
-- somebody played a trick on you and you didn't know it;
-- you subconsciously knew where the pipe was; perhaps you heard rushing water but didn't connect it to drainage;
-- you subconsciously picked a good location for a pipe (in the middle of the house, not by the side where there are no bathrooms, etc);
-- explanations that we don't know, can't think of offhand, but are credible;
-- or, dowsing works in some individuals, and somehow all of humanity through all of time has not yet worked out how, and why it can't be reproduced and tested-for under controlled conditions. I would say that's very improbable. But there's a chance, so we have to list it.

You posted at 4:20, about water pipes. Coincidence? I think not. ;)

The ground has settled slightly where our water pipes come into the house. The ditch that was dug all those years ago was then back filled in with fluffy dirt that compacted a little over time. Perhaps you had less of a dip in your yard, but there was one there. Who knows?

I would add that it's possible you smelled it, to some degree not conciously discernible.

You smelt it you dealt it!

Got my board beeeeyotches!


all you all is gonna pay!

*madly divinates*

those don't work as a divination tool bri

I mean it dosn't work by making any sense at all.







.....although your head may turn in circles and you might barf green pea soup tho :vomit:

Good. I have some questions that need answers.

I concur.
You have questions to answer young lady.

how is it that everyone here is a ouija expert? Just saying.


Ok. ASK MADAME WYRD-O UR Q's!

Leonard Nimoy did a dowsing episode on his PBS show years ago. *de-bunked*

My sources say: YES!

The system works!

Wellllllllllllllll...

What's it say?

It says that while I, Brianna, will be getting TONS of sex this year (mainly from dashing professors who will beg me to read my papers again and again and again) you guys are shite out of luck.

I'll keep trying.

And that is different from my current existence...how? :p

I thought it was a predictor, not a "this is how much you suck RFN" tool.

Just drunk on my own power, Shawnee. Pay no mind.

BTW, I've a pal you've been beating up on. How about giving her a break? She's really funny, witty, cool and very good lookin (even as a manga!) What's your problem?

She's pathetic, that's what. (puts up dukes...put 'em up, put 'em up.)

Self deprecating humor as a defense mechanism. Ask Ouija if that's healthy. ;)

Ouija is certain is unhealthy. Ouija has been in therapy a long, looong time. Ouija knows. Must talk kind and good to self. If mean to self---who will be nice?

So I went to online Ouija, and asked: should I be nicer to myself? It said "yes." I then wrote "why?" and it said "maybe later." I said "why later?" and it replied "maybe later."

I said "listen you piece of crap. Should I kick your butt?" and it said YES!

I argue with a Ouija board. What other proof do you need? :lol:

I am not an expert. Just talking and having fun like everyone else.

wtf....this was not a serious post I was teasing about the exorcist thing.

I guess my dimply grin and the twinkle in my eye got lost in translation. What a surprise.

It's all probably true shawnee! I think I should kick it's butt too, and I am probably right. :D

Just as long as me and the Ouija are on the same page, we're alright.

I can't wait until Bri receives her Ouija. I'm going to start asking it questions and make it answer her. :)

oh, sky. I was just kiddin around. I'm a dork.

I gots my board, Cic. Ask! Ask!

Ok I just asked. What does it say?

Let's see...it says "WTF did you just ask ya numnut?"

:lol2:

I'm still waiting....:)

the spirits tell me you think with a forked tongue and they refuse to answer. Moody spirits! :ghost:

P.S. I'm taking my ouija board and going home if this is the way you guys are going to be!

*huffs off with a prance*

My tongue is actually more of a spork. http://www.w-trek.com/images/spork1.bmp
But if that is how you choose to answer an easy question, then no more for you!

:D

Someone has definitely been into the spirits again. :)

What do you mean how I choose to answer? It's the board!