No I live in Santa Fe. Turn signals do not exist here, not even in my imagination.
:D

Like 17 or 18 more? :eyebrow:

We don't need that, we can get all the kids we need from Mexico. :haha:

Wow, guess I touched a few nerves here. That's fine, I'm not saying I want to take away people's rights to have lots of kids as long as I have the right to be a bit surprised. I was born in 68 with one brother, and most families I've known have had 1 to 3 kids.

I come at it from the standpoint of 1) families don't need 18 kids to work the fields anymore and 2) I think most of the world's problems are caused by too many people.

That said, I'm sure all cellar-based children will be fine and upstanding citizens so breed on.

Sorry for turning a goofy thread into something serious...

18 children smacks of selfish and irresponsible, in this day and age, in my humble opinion.

May as well fill your home with 90 cats; it's a hoarding illness like that. ;)

Let the flames begin... :bolt:

I agree - The world needs a lot less humans on it - IMO.
Perhaps I should start with myself.

Ok now the discussion has changed to 18 children...This is a great way to make a point.

As we all know...5 is very different from 18...don't we? Know that?

Oh, were we to make a point? What were we talking about again? [/tailposttoasinglepostdirectlyabovemine]

;)

There once was an old woman that lived in a shoe....

Tonight we're going to have a really big shoe!

Great, I always look forward to some good plate-spinners.

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Yes, 5 is different from (than? to?) 18, but both are unsustainable - both result in a net increase in population. Even people that think having two children doesn't increase the population are incorrect - there are now two more people on the planet. The only real way to have kids without increasing the population is to immediately go out and kill someone as soon as the baby is born.

At least that's what I do.

I have an inexplicable urge to get a slingshot. Or a BB gun. (For the guy with the balloons.)

for the Corona or the balloons?

Heehee, I was going to ask "for the kids or the balloons" then saw he added to the post.

I was thinking the balloons. They're just begging to be punctured.

yeh - I thought so too - then I looked at it again and realized he is holdin that beer out there perfectly...:sniper:

This has nothing to do with insulting women by calling their reproductive parts "clown cars". This is bull. I don't have any kids myslef and I was a fifth child. Thank god for number 5!!!

Here is more

That original vagina/ clown car does make me laugh.
I don't think Palin's family is extreme enough to lay that on her though.

And neither do I think having a baby at 17 makes you trash. Intellectually suspect in my book, morally different, but not trash. She's going along with one of the tenets she was brought up with after all.

Just say yes?

I know it's just a joke, but I too don't think Palin and her family are trash. I don't think having a child at a young age makes you trash. It happens. Teenagers have urges. Some follow through. Some pregnancies occur.

I remember them, the urges, not the pregnancies! :p

My beefs with Palin are beefs with her, not with her family. In fact, she has some cute girls there, and they may be very nice people.

Remember how they slaughtered poor Chelsea? That was just wrong wrong wrong.

Maybe she likes babies. Maybe she likes sex too. oooh, white trash. So yea. The judgements are sexually based, proving my point. Sexism is a-ok now....Now that someone you don't like obviously does the dirty deed, it's not ok....I think she should spread her legs all she damn well pleases, and she obviously is making an attempt at taking care of all 5 if she's a fucking governor. I'm no Pialin fan, but I'm getting sick of these sexually based attacks. You are no better than Pailin for engaging in that activity.

They are certainly better than....

I have a problem with that stance too, Cicero. When Palin first hit the news there was something about her hair. I was like "who gives a flying rat's ass about her hair? What's SHE about?"

Turns out I don't like her politics.

But look how they painted Hillary: a cold fish bitch who would just as soon cut your dick off than listen to you. That's sexism too.

I'm sure women in public office are prepared that it's going to happen, but it doesn't make it right. We've come a long way, baby, but we've so far to go.

Is this a good spot to once again remind everyone that women didn't get the vote until 1920, 50 years after the 15th amendment asserted the following: The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude.

Women are still scorned, subjugated, and disrespected. We have oh so far to go. :(

Wow, apologies again for derailing this fine thread.

However, I don't see where the sexism comes from. It takes two to make a clown car and the husband is in each motivational poster. They can have all the sex they want, the poster is talking about how many children is too many (and apparently the cellar has determined it's somewhere between 5 and 18 :) ).

And at the end of the day, it's all In Someone's Honest Opinion so I defer to the water balloon poster...

At least they were accurate with respect to Hillary.













JUST KIDDING

I agree with cicero and shawnee. and that the marital and up-the-duff status of her daughter have nothing to do with her ability to be VP. Her actions/statements may make her a bit of a hypocrite, but not much -her daughter's old enough to make up her own mind and you can only shape your children's futures and choices to a certain extent. And while we're at it, white trash is racist.

Now can we get back to the funny stuff?

You're not derailing and there is no need to apologize. You have opened up a discussion on what is fair in the political arena.

I don't give a shit about the clown car poster. I was talking about the Palin poster.

I think 18 kids is some kind of illness, trying to fill a hole, or keep your hole from being empty: or religious fanaticism. I don't find it admirable. I find it selfish and misguided. By the way, those clown car people are posers: they'd need 4 MORE kids to make it to 18.

That is a big difference from 5 kids, imho. Crack welfare hobags excepted (and I mean those who have kids to get more bennies then don't take care of the kids) 5 kids probably means you love children. Nothing wrong with that.

But 18? I was raised Catholic. I get the concept. I know we don't live in biblical times anymore and I know you can't make kids slave in the fields all day anymore.

And you've made the dried up old bat hillary references before, cm.

You know how I can tell it's white trash?


Look at the husband.

LOOK.

You want your wife in the White House? Learn to shave, ya rummy.

S123 - You know I couldn' resist and it is all in jest anyway. You lobbed that softball right over the plate.

Bri - right on target!

;)

Oh it's hip to be sexist again. As illustrated by Maher and even Stewart....Why are you guys any different. You want to be "hip" don't you?

I didn't mean to derail the thread with this discussion, but I am treating it like I treat the puppy. Say something right when it happens. Don't chastise later. If you are going to act like dogs, get treated like one.


There. Done. *sigh*

The attitudes are not limited to the internet, as I have to hear this kind of stuff out of people's mouths and I just get frustrated. If it's truly in jest it's funny. Unfortunately, lately, it has been neither. (funny or purely in jest)

Actually I'm beginning to think I'd rather have :gulp: her than Obama.
There - I said it. Now I'll go and deny it ever happened.

That's an older photo of that particular family (last name Dugger if you want to look them up); they currently have 18 children and a new television show on TLC.

I hear their social bookmarking website is quite successful as well.

Dude, you never said anything about a family of 18 kids. You attacked a family of what? 5? Take your licks and move on. You are still welcome here.

Personally I feel that 18 kids is an extreme choice , what every happened to zero population growth, and would be insanely hard, also bad for one's health.

So more fuel

moooooooar

From here.

Jesus H Christ in a handbag. :headshake

I don't see Jesus H Christ in a handbag as one of the choices here. ;)

I gotta ask - what does this guy do to support that many people?
Are we all somehow paying for this insanity?
I think it is utterly irresponsible to have that many kids.
It is disrespectful to the earth.

According to Clodfobble, they have a TV show on TLC. So if you buy the advertised products, you are supporting them.

Edit: And if you clicked the link in Shawnee's post, you saw advertising that helps support them.

Well, back before they had a series, and instead just a one-hour special about building their massive new home themselves out in the middle of nowhere (at which point they only had 17 or maybe even 16 kids)... they revealed that the guy was a real estate agent, and they lived in a very modest three-bedroom house, and their biggest expenditure was $500 a week on food. She makes a lot of their clothing. One problem with living in a house that small: not everyone got to take a shower every day, because there just wasn't time.


Please note that I'm really not obsessed with this family, I just remember useless crap I see on TV really well.

Only $500 a week on food? For 18 people? Wow! that's impressive.

Three quartermasters, a German, a Russian, and an American are discussing the caloric allotment for their respective troops. The Russian says "We give each troop 2500 calories a day!" The German sneers and says "we give each troop 3500 Calories a day." The American just laughs and says "Each of our boys gets 5500 calories a day."

The Russian says "Bullshit. No one could possibly eat that many potatoes in a single day"

Isn't there a saying, "Two can live as cheaply as one"? So, 18 can live as cheaply as 9, and so on.

My weekly budget for 3 is $150.

When there's 4 of us at home, we'll easily spend over $250/week.

I dunno - they must be getting some assistance somewhere. If $500 is there biggest expenditure and they can feed 18 on it, then I am doing something seriously wrong.

Been Trolling Photobucket...

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We just added up and we spent $500 last month to feed 5, so we could feed 20 on their budget -probably more as we could buy in bigger bulk.

How do you all spend so much? it's not like we live on Ramen Noodles and candy. We do cook everything from scratch, though, and we only buy a few "organic" products. Our bill would be much reduced if we grew more of our own veg too.

/hijack

They got crazy wholesale deals, I'm sure you can imagine. I think they said at one point the (already cheapass quality) ground beef worked out to $1/pound because they bought in bulk. They also indicated they ate a whole lot of frozen burritos (the kind that are like 30 cents each and have zero nutritional value.)

Edit to add: we typically spend about $500 a month for 3.5 people, plus another 2 on the weekends.

so, we just worked out we spend the same per month on sports and leisure fees (i.e. not including any equipment or equipment maintenance). Guess we know where our priorities lie!

Ok - help me out here. I'm just a dumb guy and all. But you both spend the same as them to feed 10 less people than them. How are you gonna feed ther addition 10 for ZERO extra? That makes no sense.

They spend $500 per week, not $500 per month.

do'h

:lol: sorry, i'm a math nerd, i should have spelled it out more

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