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xoxoxoBruce 06-17-2016 12:03 PM

Back in the day, before LG or LGB or LGBT, Q covered it all. I'd read some were pushing to revive Q and wondered if it was an attempt to promote unity and discourage infighting. Didn't know it had been tacked onto the banner though. I figured Q was as clear as mud, but it covers the ground, without requiring anyone to reveal personal preferences. But I was told it generalized, grouped people together that didn't want to be, so I guess it's a double edged sword. :confused:

I really don't want to be an asshole but when people like Libby barge in and tell me what I must do and must say, they can just fuck right off.

Sure would be nice if nobody felt the need to hang their identity on a letter, and move that letter to just a footnote.
Instead of being a Whitewall Car, just a Car that happens to have whitewalls.

Undertoad 06-17-2016 12:22 PM

Is the motive bigotry?

Happy Monkey 06-17-2016 12:52 PM

Of course.

And sure, one can always have a purely logical "only the Shadow knows what lurks in the hearts of men" argument, or quibble with the wording, that "the motive" implies "the only motive" and there were surely other contributing factors, but that doesn't negate the bigotry, it only affects its flavor.

Undertoad 06-17-2016 02:13 PM

So you figure he wasn't personally gay.

Gravdigr 06-17-2016 02:37 PM

I'm not sure the shooter himself knows knew if he was gay or not.

Happy Monkey 06-17-2016 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Undertoad (Post 962490)
So you figure he wasn't personally gay.

No, I think there's a reasonable chance he was, which would cause the bigotry to fuel self-hatred and misplaced anger.

Happy Monkey 06-17-2016 04:53 PM

Why We Should Politicize the Orlando Massacre
Quote:

Originally Posted by GABRIEL ARANA JUNE 16, 2016, NYTimes Opinion Section
But it is only the most privileged among us who have the luxury of divorcing politics from everyday life. Those of us in the L.G.B.T. community know better. Politics is how we won the right to be free from discrimination in government jobs, to have sex without fear of criminal prosecution, to serve in the military, to get married and adopt children. In about 28 states, we are still fighting to outlaw discrimination in employment. And transgender Americans are still fighting for the right to pee in peace.

To think that a mass shooting at a gay nightclub filled with Latinos and committed by a Muslim-American sympathetic to religious extremists is beyond the scope of politics is absurd on its face — you couldn’t dream up a scenario more rife with political implications. But it is especially absurd to those of us in the L.G.B.T. community, whose very existence has been politicized for decades.


monster 06-17-2016 05:00 PM

Here the Q is usually taken to mean Questioning

sexobon 06-17-2016 05:21 PM

LGBTQ?

monster 06-17-2016 06:15 PM

minimum 17 points with no blank tiles.

infinite monkey 06-17-2016 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sexobon (Post 962507)
LGBTQ?

QTIP?

sexobon 06-17-2016 06:37 PM

LGBTQTIPDQ?

Aliantha 06-20-2016 03:35 AM

Straight. Not straight.

That is really how I define sexuality in my own mind simply because there are a lot of straight people with weird (to me) ideas about their sexuality, and there are a lot of not straight people with weird (to me) ideas about their sexuality.

Maybe it should just be sexual or not sexual?

I know I'm totally un PC by saying this, but really, can't people just be who they are without having to be defined by a letter or word?

Anyway, this piece of shit from Orlando was nothing but a biggotted shithole who should never have had access to that kind of weapon. The sooner you lot sort your shit out the better for all of you.

Or just hurry up and kill yourselves off so the Aussies can run the world instead, but with better leaders. Maybe like me.

Oh, we have a redneck idiot running for a seat in the Senate this coming federal election. Her name is Pauline Hanson. Her and Trump would get along famously. She's almost as dumb as he is.

Griff 06-20-2016 06:17 AM

An idiot politician!? Say it ain't so!

You Aussies can have the planet, running the world turns out to be harder than we were told.

tw 06-20-2016 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aliantha (Post 962683)
SHer and Trump would get along famously. She's almost as dumb as he is.

Is she dumb? Or is she so smart as to easily recruit the dumb?


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