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tw 01-12-2015 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by sexobon (Post 918774)
You'd feel less safe too if you knew that when the going got tough, large segments of your population were going to bail out on you.

That's only urban myths. No large ex-flux from France exists.

sexobon 01-12-2015 11:47 PM

Irrelevant, they believe it will happen and are acting accordingly, a blind man could see that.

xoxoxoBruce 01-13-2015 01:58 AM

And fo another point of view at The Intercept.

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Some of the cartoons published by Charlie Hebdo were not just offensive but bigoted, such as the one mocking the African sex slaves of Boko Haram as welfare queens (left). Others went far beyond maligning violence by extremists acting in the name of Islam, or even merely depicting Mohammed with degrading imagery, and instead contained a stream of mockery toward Muslims generally, who in France are not remotely powerful but are largely a marginalized and targeted immigrant population.

But no matter. Their cartoons were noble and should be celebrated – not just on free speech grounds but for their content. In a column entitled “The Blasphemy We Need,” The New York Times‘ Ross Douthat argued that “the right to blaspheme (and otherwise give offense) is essential to the liberal order” and “that kind of blasphemy [that provokes violence] is precisely the kind that needs to be defended, because it’s the kind that clearly serves a free society’s greater good.”


When we originally discussed publishing this article to make these points, our intention was to commission two or three cartoonists to create cartoons that mock Judaism and malign sacred figures to Jews the way Charlie Hebdo did to Muslims. But that idea was thwarted by the fact that no mainstream western cartoonist would dare put their name on an anti-Jewish cartoon, even if done for satire purposes, because doing so would instantly and permanently destroy their career, at least. Anti-Islam and anti-Muslim commentary (and cartoons) are a dime a dozen in western media outlets; the taboo that is at least as strong, if not more so, are anti-Jewish images and words. Why aren’t Douthat, Chait, Yglesias and their like-minded free speech crusaders calling for publication of anti-Semitic material in solidarity, or as a means of standing up to this repression? Yes, it’s true that outlets like The New York Times will in rare instances publish such depictions, but only to document hateful bigotry and condemn it – not to publish it in “solidarity” or because it deserves a serious and respectful airing.

tw 01-13-2015 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by sexobon (Post 918943)
Irrelevant, they believe it will happen and are acting accordingly, a blind man could see that.

Thats what the wackos were told to say. A moderate would have posted numbers to support that suspicion. No numbers posted because that mass immigration from France to Isreal is only a feeling inspired by recent fears; not supported by actions.

If anyone should be in mass exodous due to hate, it should be Muslims. Fortunately extremists (those who promote hate) remain in a minority.

sexobon 01-13-2015 10:34 PM

One doesn't post numbers for developmentally impaired whacko moderates who are incapable of recognizing the self evident and are too lazy to do the research themselves.

Past human behavior is not necessarily a reliable indicator of future human behavior. Any psychologist can tell you that, the French know it; but, you don't. That's because your developmental disability left you emotionally handicapped.

regular.joe 01-13-2015 11:56 PM

The fact is that there is enough of an extreme Muslim population in the world who are willing and able to commit huge acts of violence against unarmed and innocent people. It's enough to take some action. Having worked and befriended many Muslims who are not in this group I know that we cannot just lump all Muslims together. Yet, something must be done about the violent extreme groups.

Lamplighter 05-07-2015 09:59 AM

Je suis Charlie, mais je ne suis pas Pam Geller.

Undertoad 05-07-2015 11:28 AM

Je suis Pam Geller when Pam Geller is the one getting shot at, until then she is having others do her heavy lifting and that's not fair.

tw 05-07-2015 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by regular.joe (Post 919069)
Yet, something must be done about the violent extreme groups.

That should include violent extremists such as Cheney and Bremer who pushed most all moderate Iraqis into extremism with Provisional Authority Orders 1 and 2. That literally forced all educated Iraqis into unemployment and disbanded the army and police. The resulting insurgency and death of most American soldiers in Iraq are directly traceable to those violent extremists.

BTW, Sexobon make frames himself as just as dumb by his incessent personal attacks. Tirades continue from that child.

sexobon 05-08-2015 07:26 PM

But then I have both the medical and intelligence operative training to accurately characterize someone like you who routinely sees other adults as children because you're an impaired adult yourself. That goes directly to your credibility; or, lack thereof as a source of information.

tw 05-10-2015 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by sexobon (Post 927967)
But then I have both the medical and intelligence operative training to accurately characterize someone like you .

So you are also a liar. Intelligent adults have not routinely posted so many cheapshots at many cellar dwellers. An adult who is still a child (and a wacko extremist) does post cheapshots. It somehow enthralls his ego.

Of course, ego also means he must reply with most insults. An adult who is still a child has nothing factual or adult to contribute.

sexobon 05-10-2015 02:02 PM

YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE FACTS!

That's why you'll never hold more than amateur propagandist standing. You'll never live up to your father's professional status. You're just too impulsive, too reactionary, too easily hampered by your impaired perceptions of the world to realize that every time you try to impose your conclusions on others that your capabilities and motives will be scrutinized. If you don't want to be scrutinized, if you don't want others to impose their assessments of you on you, don't impose on others. Present information and let others draw their own conclusions. That's how normal adults relate to each other. Your communication skills are on par with that of an impaired adult. That's why you can't adapt even though it means diminished credibility.

OTOH, I enjoy your responses to my posts. They're highly entertaining, almost as comical as many of your conclusions. Please continue. You know you crave my replies and can't stop yourself. Resistance is futile.

tw 05-11-2015 11:07 AM

Are children permitted on the Cellar?

sexobon 05-11-2015 07:32 PM

No, you don't require a permit to be here. [zing!]

Monsieur tw, peut-ętre vous ętes Charlie!


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