Thanks ibz, although its my fault for even trying. I guess snarkiness by using someone's own terminology is just being shitty. I guess I should never point out the lack of evidence behind someone's claim.

You got yer ass handed to you. YOU started the snark. I simply finished it.

You made a completely unbased claim lacking anything remotely like evidence. Yes the electoral college fucks things up and voter apathy and we don't really know anything (even you) about the actual numbers until that night. You still didn't answer the question about who you were talking about and your pronouns were vague, so was your statement, about who you were talking about what being what. Snark, aka sarcasm, is not the same thing as being an asshole. You are being an asshole to me and I would like an apology.

True dat.

Listen at 4:14 of the video you posted. I figured you knew that already since you posted it. :eyebrow:

You are being an asshole to me and I would like an apology.

Uh-oh, looks like it's time for someone's regular self-imposed ban.......

This is probably already in here somewhere, but tis funny:

Good vid Dana.

I'm hoping O's position evolves to believing there needs to be a federal law protecting human rights.

I'm sure it evolved to that point a while ago but isn't ready politically. A federal law could fuel a strong backlash from conservatives, hurting both Obama and already established gay rights. It obviously isn't ideal but any means, but I think Obama's stance is more pragmatic and less what he actually believes.

:lol2:

evolves...

And while everyone obsesses over the presidential race, the right wing is working their ass off at what's really important... Congress, Governorships, State Legislatures.

Who's president makes a hill of beans compared to where the power to fuck up your life lies. This is how the religious right/ultra conservative block has wielded disproportionate power. They work the system... so should you.

HoF worthy post.

No one gives a shit about "Gay" marriage. It is a total distraction. Why? It is a States Rights Issue. It will never be passed as a Constitutional Amendment to ban it. Will never past muster. Get over it. It will not change. If Bleeding Hearts what to die over it let them, just remember that it was Bill Cliton that signed DOMA into law. The whole issue is stupid.