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Pete Zicato

10-06-2011 03:28 PM

'course then you've got to let Merc go on the "Demoncrat" thing even though it's a meme of one.

Griff

10-06-2011 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary (Post 761052)

I love how this has turned into something akin to the WTO protests. Not one damm unified group but a bunch of wacko extremists (think tw) who have no clue as to why the person next to them are there.

Wait, this is a Tea Party event?

BigV	10-06-2011 08:11 PM

Several protestors were arrested here at Occupy Seattle. The offense was "camping", they set up tents in the square, and that's not allowed. Otherwise, we're good to go.

I believe I'll stop by tomorrow as I'll be in the neighborhood and I have more time than money.

classicman

10-06-2011 08:58 PM

Love this guy. His interviews went viral instantly.

classicman

10-06-2011 09:09 PM

tw	10-06-2011 10:15 PM

The Man with the Golden Tongue.

BigV	10-06-2011 11:29 PM

you rang?

classicman

10-06-2011 11:32 PM

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Lamplighter

10-07-2011 09:18 AM

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CULTUREPHILE: PORTLAND ARTS
Posted by: Anne Adams on Oct 06, 2011 at 05:50PM

On the first day of an indefinite “occupation” of downtown Portland,
here are 45 messages that protesters wrote on their placards.

Here are some:
THIS IS OUR VOICE, THE VOICE OF THE PEOPLE
STOP FORECLOSURES
TAX THE RICH
WE THE PEOPLE; TOO BIG TO FAIL
AMERICA, STOP PAYING CRIMINALS TO STEAL FROM YOU [BANK LOGOS]
FIGHT GREED
CAPITALISM IS A PYRAMID SCHEME
THE JERK STORE CALLED; THEY’RE OUT OF CEO’S [SEINFELD REFERENCE]
THEY TOOK OUR JERBS [SOUTH PARK REFERENCE]
STOP THE WAR ON WORKING PEOPLE
DEBT IS SLAVERY
END CORPORATE PERSONHOOD
WALL STREET GAMBLERS CRASHED THE ECONOMY, NOT AMERICAN WORKERS
YOU’RE AFTER THE WRONG GOLD
HOLD WALL STREET RESPONSIBLE
WPA NOW! REAL REFORM
IF THE SYSTEM IS ONLY WORKING FOR 1%, THE SYSTEM ISN’T WORKING
END CORPORATE WELFARE
THE 1% CREATED THE PROBLEMS, THE 99% WILL CREATE THE SOLUTIONS
WAGE PEACE
...

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[Mayor Sam] Adams also met up with the march and walked alongside protesters
for a block or so as they passed City Hall.
Later, city officials forbade the occupation of Schrunk [Plaza] and threatened arrest,
but conceded that the demonstrators could remain in Lownsdale overnight.

SamIam

10-07-2011 10:12 AM

Go, Portland! Your mayor is named "Sam Adams"? How cool is that?

Oh, and we all know "faux" means "fake." But if someone dislikes the French, there is always "foxed" which refers to pages of a book ruined by stains (yellow journalism, anyone?) and is an old slang term for "drunk."

Lamplighter

10-07-2011 11:14 AM

This morning the local media has begun fomenting a confrontation
between the "Occupy Portland" and the "Portland Marathon".

The annual PM has about 14,000 runners, and took out a permit last year to use Lonsdale Square all day today.
The OP is conciliatory to sharing the Square and supporting the PM runners and it's volunteers.
The PDX police say the OP has been quiet and peaceful all night.

Local TV sees this as an opportunity for a media event by asking provoking questions
about who has the "rights" to the Square, and what is OP going to do IF...

BigV	10-07-2011 11:25 AM

Mayor supports protestors

Quote:

Mayor Mike McGinn on Thursday said protesters could have an "organizing tent" that could remain overnight, but said protesters would have to allow the park to be cleaned and promise to protect park property while allowing others access to businesses.

McGinn also said the city would allow protesters to stay overnight at City Hall Plaza, with "reasonable restrictions" on tents so that people could use the plaza during the day. City Hall has restrooms, he noted, while Westlake doesn't.

Protesters would be allowed to use the plaza for two weeks, the mayor said.

Also notable is the presence of labor union members among the supporters of the protest.

Quote:

The labor leaders threw their support behind the Occupy Seattle movement Thursday, boosting morale a day after 25 protesters were arrested. Top union members visited Westlake to let protesters know they share a similar view: The economy isn't fair and more jobs are needed.

"It's their movement, but it's our message," said Kathy Cummings, a spokeswoman for the Washington State Labor Council, which represents 750 local unions.

The labor group also has asked members to drop off bottled water and ready-to-eat packaged foods at the council's office, Cummings said.

I will be joining them today at midday.

DanaC

10-07-2011 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Perry Winkle (Post 760983)

The example you directed at me is completely different than the case we're talking about. They are reporters. They are reporting a fact. They aren't calling anyone names.

I've read a few European newspapers. In my experience they tend to actually use offensive words when that's the fact of what was said or posted. I admire cultures that are mature enough to face facts.

Also, saying "N word" is not meaningfully different than saying "nigger" to me. It's still invoking an offensive (in the context) word.

If they wanted to be considerate they wouldn't specify which racial epithet was part of the place name. Saying something like "... a place name containing a racial epithet ..." is sufficiently descriptive while truly being removed from a word that is offensive in the first order.

I would prefer it if they'd just use the word without varnishing it.

Funnily enough, Mum and I were discussing the offensive words and euphemisms the other day. She'd heard some programme or other about some research on responses to 'rude' words. Turns out that for people who find the word 'fuck' offensive, there is a revulsion response. Probably borne of hearing their parents responses to those words (displaying revulsion). Euphemisms, such as 'the f-word' or 'effing' do not provoke the same revulsion response for those people.

I fail to see why 'fuck all' is any more offensive than 'sweet fanny adams'. But that's because I don't have a revulsion response to the word 'fuck'. If I did, I would find the euphemism far more palatable. Apparently.

DanaC

10-07-2011 11:32 AM

Love those messages. The first one put a lump in my throat.

Made me think of the old protest song, The Land.

Quote:

Sound the call for freedom boys, and sound it far and wide,
March along to victory, for God is on our side,
While the voice of nature thunders o'er the rising tide:
"God gave the land to the people."

Chorus

The land, the land,
'Twas God who made the land,
The land, the land,
The ground on which we stand,
Why should we be beggars
With a ballot in our hand?
God gave the land to the people.

Hark! The sound is spreading from the east and from the west!
Why should we work hard and let the landlords take the best?
Make them pay their taxes on the land just like the rest!
The land was meant for the people.

Chorus

Clear the way for liberty, the land must all be free,
None of us shall falter from the fight tho' stern shall be.
'Til the flag we love so well shall fly from sea to sea,
O'er the land that is free for the people.

Chorus

The army now is marching on, the battle to begin,
The standard now is raised on high to face the battle din,
We'll never cease from fighting 'til the victory we win,
And the land is free for the people.

footfootfoot

10-07-2011 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Perry Winkle (Post 760983)

Also, saying "N word" is not meaningfully different than saying "nigger" to me. It's still invoking an offensive (in the context) word.

If they wanted to be considerate they wouldn't specify which racial epithet was part of the place name. Saying something like "... a place name containing a racial epithet ..." is sufficiently descriptive while truly being removed from a word that is offensive in the first order.

I would prefer it if they'd just use the word without varnishing it.

Yeah there is a disingenuous tone in their voice when they say "the N word" instead of just saying Nigger. And as you point out, they might just as easily say racial epithet.

Also, I had to re-read it twice but I think Spexx was making an attempt at ironic humor but used the wink smiley instead fo the ironic humor smiley.

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