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TheMercenary 06-03-2010 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jinx (Post 660334)
Telling the truth doesn't mean people are always going to be happy with what you say, it just means you have integrity and can be trusted.

But sometimes it is just safer to not tell the "whole" truth about many things.

jinx 06-03-2010 07:56 PM

What you are trading for that safety is not insignificant.

TheMercenary 06-03-2010 08:04 PM

But you may be protecting something that is quite significant, hence it is a safe move in and of itself.

HungLikeJesus 06-03-2010 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jinx (Post 660326)
Either you like it or you don't.
You don't have to be a dick about not liking it if that's the case, but there's no reason to lie about it.

I usually just use certain key words, like "interesting." "Hmm, that's interesting."

Then she says, "I know what that means. I guess I won't be making that again."

Shawnee123 06-03-2010 09:54 PM

Tact. Respect.

Yep! :)

Clodfobble 06-03-2010 10:54 PM

A friend of mine's mother is the queen of always making people feel good yet never, ever lying. Ever.

If you show her the living room you just redecorated in puke green, she will say, "Oh, you can really see how much work you've put into it! It will be so wonderful for you in the afternoons, with the sun shining in. I can just picture you reading in your chair, so cozy!"

Personally, I've found that people very rarely actually ask for an opinion on things anyway, and most people only find themselves in tact-or-honesty situations because they feel compelled to comment one way or the other even if no one's asked their opinion. If you're at someone's house for dinner, and the food is shit, just find a time to thank them for inviting you over, or don't say anything. A chef who actually asks "What did you think of the meal?" is being a dick in their own right, putting the guest on the spot for an expected lie, and deserves what they get.

sexobon 06-04-2010 03:05 AM

I always tell the truth, except when I lie out of necessity; because, YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!

glatt 06-04-2010 08:28 AM

I'm lying right now.

TheMercenary 06-04-2010 09:08 AM

All humans lie. It is natural.

Pie 06-04-2010 11:50 AM

I only feel obligated to tell the truth to people I care about, and then only if they want to know*. I don't owe it to anyone else.

*Usually, they just want validations of their own opinions.

jinx 06-04-2010 12:21 PM

If you're ok with lying it must mean you're ok with being lied to.
Does that mean you trust everyone, or trust no one?

lumberjim 06-04-2010 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glatt (Post 660460)
I'm lying right now.


:: BRAIN ANEURYSM::

HungLikeJesus 06-04-2010 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sheldonrs (Post 660244)
Anyone who believes that lies are never necessary has never had parents or been in a relationship. :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pie (Post 660519)
I only feel obligated to tell the truth to people I care about, and then only if they want to know*. I don't owe it to anyone else.

*Usually, they just want validations of their own opinions.

Interesting dichotomy. I have to agree with Sheldon.

Shawnee123 06-04-2010 12:53 PM

I still think there's a huge difference between "I'm too weak and pasty to be honest with people and I have nothing to offer so I'll make myself look or feel better by making shit up" and being tactful and respectful.

The former are the people who cheated at Monopoly as kids, like winning by cheating is anything close to actual winning.

The latter are the people who don't walk up and say "DAMN you are one ugly bitch." :lol:

Of course, I'm a known liar-hater. Always hating on the liars.

Clodfobble 06-04-2010 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jinx
If you're ok with lying it must mean you're ok with being lied to.
Does that mean you trust everyone, or trust no one?

No one, for the most part. Because even if I never lied, and wasn't okay with being lied to... I'd still get lied to, and still trust no one, for the most part. It's more like, I trust those close to me to not lie about the important things, and to have the wisdom to know the difference.


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