Well I'm not entirely sure which "side" I'm on either. hey, Shaw, when did you buy your car? One of the links i read said it was being backdated to 1st july....

Yeah, but my car's government-issued mpg was far better than I actually got. It's all based on year of car, and a few other statistics, not condition of car. (The Green Machine has been a trooper, running badly but getting me to work every day!) Otherwise, I would have waited. They look at combined mileage of highway and city mileage, based on agreed upon history, and I just missed the mark.

Although, I admit I haven't read the law as set in stone, but I'm guessing that part hasn't changed.

Oh, and I bought my car end of June. lol.

I think you meant increase. ;)
They use the EPA estimated mileage that's been published for every make/model sold in the US for the last 35 years.

Seems to me, the family driving a 1980 land-yacht getting 12/14 mpg because they can't afford to trade up, and could with the help of this program buy a 2 or 3 year old car that gets 24/26 mpg, would be a good thing.

I suppose they are trying to reduce the manufacturers inventories and get the factories/employment moving, with the new car restriction. But I think they are missing an opportunity to get some of the real clunkers off the road.

What car did you have in mind here?

The damnfucking website has been crashing all day. you would not believe what you have to go thru.

you have to fill in all these fields that are pop up menus and then attach eleventy nine images of the documents you've scanned in.....and it won't goddamn save a claim until it's complete. It's crashed 3 times on me on this one application that i havent gotten in yet.

ive wasted 2 hours dicking around and gotten zero done.

its currently experiencing high traffic.

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But is the traffic getting good mileage?

Jim says they've suspended it, think the money is all used up. He's still trying to get tonight's deals entered, but the site keeps crashing.

ouch

See? A nightmare for those who have to deal with it. Why can't government consult small and successful businesses about how to think about all that stuff ahead of time, or don't expect success?

No, the money isn't used up. Because the traffic is so heavy the site keeps crashing, they suspended it until they can figure out how to do it.

None in particular, just an example why used cars should be included, even it they stipulate a larger gain for them to qualify.

I stayed at work until 2 am scanning files and organizing the information i need to enter 10 of the 21 claims we have.....

I tried intermittently to enter claims, but was invariable frustrated by 505 internal server errors, unexpeted errors, time outs and freezing windows. i was able to submit one claim a few minutes ago when i got home....at 3:20 am.......but now ....when i log back in ....i see this:::

it's 3:51 am my time.....wtf

They also said all deals that were written before 11 pm last night would be honored.

The noon news, now says the money is almost gone, whereas the 11pm news last night said no. I wonder if they really know, with the computers jammed up?

I fear this may go the way of the other money in the Stimulus Bill. For example there were a bunch of grant money just given out for police departments. Many hired new cops. To bad the money is only for 3 years. After that the money will not be available anymore without more repeat spending, i.e. more money from the government largesse. Then what do all these police departments do? How about all the road projects that take years to complete? What happens when those monies run out?