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Originally Posted by Spexxvet (Post 558633)

Really.

As of January 2009, the annual salary of each Representative is $174,000.00.[7]

Senators 2008-present $169,300 per annum

all A BOARD!

~~The train to Stupidville is leaving on track 3!!!~~

allllllllllllll A BOARD!

chugga chugga chooo choo!!

End of the Line:

ELVERSON, PA

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Originally Posted by Bullitt (Post 558529)

... It would be extremely unfair to him to cut his salary just to diminish wage disparity. Of course a company should reward its employees generously, including everyone at the bottom. But I find fault in allowing that mindset to blind a person to the fact that many executives actually deserve high pay. Not all of course, there are many that will bleed a company dry for their own personal benefit and toss its employees around with no regard for their income needs. But not every executive is like that, and I object to any sweeping assertion that every executive in corporate America should have an artificial wage cap. My father may make almost 6 times what the average worker in the plant does, but he again earns every penny of it. To artificially deny him that fair compensation, dictated by the head of the company, is greed in the opposite direction. Greed by those who think his work is just making powerpoint presentations and playing golf all day. Greed by those who assume an executive's job is among the easiest professions in the world, and because of that executives owe everyone below them a piece of their salary pie. I assure you, there are highly paid executives of some companies that deserve the pay they are rewarded...

Bullitt, kudos to your dad. You said he earned 6x what the average employee earns. That is in no way out of balance. I'm talking about the executives that earn hundreds x more. On average, a CEO makes close to 500x more than what the average employee earns. THAT is what I'm talking about. By the standards that I would apply, your dad would probably earn more, not less.

And ftr, I am demonizing ALL executives. I am only demonizing the greedy ones.

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Originally Posted by lumberjim (Post 558573)

really?

I try to stay out of the big long serious discussions ...partly because I really don't have the time to do the necessary research that would be required in order to not say anything really stupid, and partly because they fucking bore me. You, however, have repeatedly demonstrated that you are free from any such compunctions. huzzah!

The people in Congress who have millions of dollars did not earn that money with their salaries IN Congress. Yes, there are a LOT of rich people in Congress. But their salaries are all under $400,000 a year. The president only earns $400,000 a year. Do you honestly think anyone's salary in Congress is more than the presidents?

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Originally Posted by sugarpop (Post 558747)

what, now that you've changed what you said initially?

here's what you said:

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the people in Congress don't make millions of dollars.

now you add the 'with their salaries' part.

and now you've edited out asking who the idiot is. smooth. I guess you already know the answer to that question then.

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Originally Posted by lumberjim (Post 558749)

what, now that you've changed what you said initially?

here's what you said:

now you add the 'with their salaries' part.

and now you've edited out asking who the idiot is. smooth. I guess you already know the answer to that question then.

I edited that out because it was uncalled for. I was being reactive, because you implied that I was an idiot, and I'm not. But, I don't appreciate people calling me that either. It still isn't right for me to call you one in return. So I was trying to be the better person.

As far as what I said, "people in Congress don't make millions of dollars," and then adding on the salary part, what the hell did you think I was talking about in the first place? They RAISE millions of dollars for their campaigns, but that is not the same thing as being paid millions of dollars.

ya might want to check out where ron paul's campaign funds went.

my point was simply that they DO in FACT make millions of dollars. well...they GET millions of dollars. one way or another.....

Also, I though it naive of you to differentiate between them and corporate execs based on that criteria in the first place.

let's just go back to being strangers.

/off/what's with the LJ persona?/topic/

oh, and the stupid train quip was pointed more toward spexxcock than you. He fancies himself my nemesis, and rushes to the defense of anyone he thinks I'm picking on unjustly. It's a proud service he does for the weak and defenseless of the cellar. You forgot to thank him, I noticed.

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Originally Posted by lookout123 (Post 558800)

/off/what's with the LJ persona?/topic/

oops. i was going to add a couple things to my list as LJ, and got side tracked.

You didn't have to change on my account I was just wondering if there was some symbolic milestone approaching.

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Originally Posted by LJ (Post 558801)

I am neither weak nor defenseless.