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DanaC 12-11-2008 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla (Post 512464)
Our country's ties with England are not those of Commonwealth, but those of affection, excepting the period 1775-1814 when things were bitter. Cultural connection, over any extensive period of time, trumps political division.

Bitter, yes; but not so bitter as to allow that to interrupt a lucrative and mutually beneficial trading relationship. The French meanwhile, who'd assisted the fledgling nation in its bid for independence, were pretty much frozen out of trade with America. I think the bitterness dissipated remarkably quickly between Britain and America, considerably before 1815; though things remained tense certainly.

For real bitterness you need to look at Anglo-French relations during that period and the preceding 130 years.

lookout123 12-11-2008 09:36 AM

Oh, sure use facts to support your ideas. Completely unfair.

But to be fair we turned out back on the frogs because, well... they're french. they really aren't good for much other than churning out some of the world's best football players.

xoxoxoBruce 12-11-2008 10:05 AM

They're naturals at soccer because their hands are busy elsewhere from an early age. :p

Shawnee123 12-11-2008 10:18 AM

Doing what...waving white flags? :)

Undertoad 12-11-2008 10:57 AM

Producing duck a l'orange!

DanaC 12-11-2008 05:59 PM

Oh this is hard. This really hard. I'm torn you see. On the one hand my Euro-self wants to leap to the defence of my French compatriots, but my British self is genetically predisposed towards taking the piss out of them.

Maui Nick 12-12-2008 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by lookout123 (Post 512616)
Oh, sure use facts to support your ideas. Completely unfair.

But to be fair we turned out back on the frogs because, well... they're french. they really aren't good for much other than churning out some of the world's best football players.

By "football players" do you mean "football players" or do you mean "soccer players?" :D

Urbane Guerrilla 12-13-2008 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DanaC (Post 512580)
For real bitterness you need to look at Anglo-French relations during that period and the preceding 130 years.

And the Hundred Years' War, if bitterness may be measured by casualties.

DanaC 12-14-2008 05:06 AM

Really? I know very little about the Hundred Years' War, but I would have thought the body count of the 'Second Hundred Years' War' (1689-1815) would have been much higher.

lookout123 12-14-2008 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Maui Nick (Post 512848)
By "football players" do you mean "football players" or do you mean "soccer players?" :D

I said football, not Throwball.

DucksNuts 12-15-2008 02:46 AM

Real footy poofs have way better guns than soccer poofs though.


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