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Pie 11-05-2008 01:06 PM

Interesting. I'm not sure those were really there as protection -- they seem t leave a lot of the guy uncovered. :eyebrow:

glatt 11-05-2008 01:17 PM

I don't know Chicago at all, so maybe those of you who have been and know this park can comment better, but I just went to Google Earth and looked at the satellite imagery for this park. The buildings behind Obama in the picture are 1 full mile away from Obama. A telephoto lens makes them appear to be closer than they are. To the left of the picture, in the direction that Obama is facing, are closer buildings that are not as tall. (They are out of frame.) They are about 500 meters away. According to Merc, a sniper could reach Obama from there, but the plexiglass protects him from that direction. Behind the photographer, there is a large museum about 300 meters away. It shields him from that direction. And to the right in the picture, behind Obama, is the lake.

I think they did a pretty good job of shielding him.

Pie 11-05-2008 01:27 PM

How about from where the guy took this picture? If he's in photo range, he's in bullet range.
(I don't know why I'm arguing about this -- I think he'll be fine.)

glatt 11-05-2008 01:42 PM

The press go through security.

But yeah, that would be more of an "inside job" and that's the only way I can see anyone getting close enough. I think he'll be fine. (of course, I did obsess enough about it to go look at Google Earth.)

bartman 11-05-2008 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by glatt (Post 501554)
(of course, I did obsess enough about it to go look at Google Earth.)

I didn't :D

freshnesschronic 11-05-2008 02:48 PM

As a Chicagoan, Grant Park is on the shoreline basically, surrounded by the art institute and Roosevelt U, Columbia College of Chicago and other buildings that would have been WELL covered by security. To the north is Millenium park, again no chance for anybody. No one has a chance on the ground, the only feasible chance would be on a boat but I'm sure coast guard was there with helicopter coverage, I heard choppers in the speech. The college buildings don't allow anyone who's non student or faculty or maintenance. And it is illegal to own a firearm in Chicago. There's no way anyone could get one into a Chicago college building, impossible for the art institute.

Again, I feel he'll be the most protected president to date.

HungLikeJesus 11-05-2008 03:42 PM

It's illegal to own a firearm in Chicago? How's that working out for you?

bartman 11-05-2008 03:47 PM

They can never catch the ppl that possess firearms. Only the ones who own them.

Shawnee123 11-05-2008 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by HungLikeJesus (Post 501600)
It's illegal to own a firearm in Chicago? How's that working out for you?

You insensitive bastard. Chicago was killed on 9/11...hence the song "The Night Chicago Died."

Sheesh

Bullitt 11-05-2008 03:58 PM

Not well. Chicago loses more black kids due to firearm deaths than the city loses soldiers in Iraq.

Aliantha 11-05-2008 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Clodfobble (Post 501351)
I had this overwhelming fear that it was somehow going to happen during the acceptance speech last night. I could barely watch it, I was so convinced.

Me too

Aliantha 11-05-2008 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by SamIam (Post 501431)
While it certainly is a concern, I think too many of you have been reading thriller type novels. I admitted to this same fear elsewhere on this board, but I right now am too busy being proud of the American people for electing the first Black President of the US. WE've come a long way from the ku lux klan, lynching and the civil rights era in the South. Yep, those elements are still out there, but the Secret Service is very good, and I am not going to let anything mar my pleasure on this day. I finally have regained some faith in my fellow Americans. :thumb: :thumb: Ooooh, and Colorado is now a Blue State. YAY! Take that you born agains in Colorado Springs and conservative West Slope ranchers!

From an outsiders perspective, Obama is the most charismatic man to be the American President since JFK, and look what happened to him? The two have won their seats in such similar circumstances also. (a big part of that being support from the liberal entertainment industry)

That's the main reason for my thoughts on this matter. My other thought is that he should stay out of convertibles and away from grassy knolls.

I think you need to have a bit of a look at the history books Sam. :)

Bruce 9012 11-05-2008 05:13 PM

Thanks for seeing hollywood for what it is

Cicero 11-05-2008 05:15 PM

I think he'll get lucky, despite several attempts. Yes, that is the positive end.

Aliantha 11-05-2008 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Bruce 9012 (Post 501619)
Thanks for seeing hollywood for what it is

A liberal entertainment industry? You say that like it's a bad thing.


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